Have had many discussions but to no avail.... wife doesn't like to kiss (tries everything to avoid), seldom if ever shows any affection, never touches the man pole except for a BJ that may happen once or twice a year. I get to go "south" about the same amount of times as well and love to give her pleasure.
She does not communicate or doesn't want to about anything sexual.
Have had many discussions but to no avail.... wife doesn't like to kiss (tries everything to avoid), seldom if ever shows any affection, never touches the man pole except for a BJ that may happen once or twice a year. I get to go "south" about the same amount of times as well and love to give her pleasure.
She does not communicate or doesn't want to about anything sexual.
Thanks for posting.
I'm willing to bet your story is in the links on this thread.
Was she always like this or is this a new development? if she was willing to talk about it and work things out I'd hang in there and try.
If not, I'm gone YESTERDAY! Posted via Mobile Device
Have had many discussions but to no avail.... wife doesn't like to kiss (tries everything to avoid), seldom if ever shows any affection, never touches the man pole except for a BJ that may happen once or twice a year. I get to go "south" about the same amount of times as well and love to give her pleasure.
She does not communicate or doesn't want to about anything sexual.
Are you just talking at her or having REAL discussions?
Are you sufficiently hygienic to be kissed / blown without making her retch?
Are you sufficiently well-shaven that going down on her doesn't feel like being worked over with a wire brush?
Are you physically in acceptable shape?
Do you look like you give a toss about about your appearance?
If you're answering "no" to any of these, you might not want to put up with it, but you don't have a choice.
Does she feel sex is a revolting obligation and only does it because she has to?
Does she lack a frame of reference to discuss sex?
Was she always like this or is this a new development? if she was willing to talk about it and work things out I'd hang in there and try.
If not, I'm gone YESTERDAY! Posted via Mobile Device
Un-salvageable. Cannot be fixed. The consequences of that are up to you. She's happy or happy-ish in the way that any insufferable martyr can be happy. She will never change and there's no point in worrying about that.
Are you just talking at her or having REAL discussions?
Are you sufficiently hygienic to be kissed / blown without making her retch?
Are you sufficiently well-shaven that going down on her doesn't feel like being worked over with a wire brush?
Are you physically in acceptable shape?
Do you look like you give a toss about about your appearance?
If you're answering "no" to any of these, you might not want to put up with it, but you don't have a choice.
Does she feel sex is a revolting obligation and only does it because she has to?
Does she lack a frame of reference to discuss sex?
If the answers here are "yes", see above.
I am a good looking guy and keep myself in decent shape, hygiene is fine.
Not sure if she feels is obligatory but she may sometimes. What do you mean frame of reference to discuss sex?
Well I am a woman, and I used to be that way too. My problem was that he didnt know how to romance me. Romance begins way before the bedroom, at least for me. He used to be a wam bam thank ya mam, he learned through lots of talking. Married 23 yrs, good luck to you!
What do you mean frame of reference to discuss sex?
"I like it when you use your fingers / tongue / penis / fur codpiece / whatever to do THIS here! Yes! Like that!" = Frame of reference (may be more or less graphic, but clear, understandable)
"Well, maybe if you sort of you-know-what with your you-know-what, well... I don't know, I'm a LAY-deeee...." = No frame of reference. If she can't show or tell you what she wants how she wants and when she wants it, you won't find out while you have hole in in your arse. If she expects you to read her mind or just "know" because you're the man, this is having no frame of reference or ability to discuss sex.
Wondering why, with this having been an issue from Day 1, you would go ahead and marry her, if clearly it is an issue for you (as it would be for 99.99999999% of men)?
Wondering why, with this having been an issue from Day 1, you would go ahead and marry her, if clearly it is an issue for you (as it would be for 99.99999999% of men)?
Wondering why, with this having been an issue from Day 1, you would go ahead and marry her, if clearly it is an issue for you (as it would be for 99.99999999% of men)?
I guess because I was young, dumb, and stupid and did not know any better.. wiser now.
"I like it when you use your fingers / tongue / penis / fur codpiece / whatever to do THIS here! Yes! Like that!" = Frame of reference (may be more or less graphic, but clear, understandable)
"Well, maybe if you sort of you-know-what with your you-know-what, well... I don't know, I'm a LAY-deeee...." = No frame of reference. If she can't show or tell you what she wants how she wants and when she wants it, you won't find out while you have hole in in your arse. If she expects you to read her mind or just "know" because you're the man, this is having no frame of reference or ability to discuss sex.
I wish.... she can't explain, won't explain, or give any detail as to what she likes. i know a few she does not like.. oral either way, anal, kissing,touching her knees or belly button.
Well I am a woman, and I used to be that way too. My problem was that he didnt know how to romance me. Romance begins way before the bedroom, at least for me. He used to be a wam bam thank ya mam, he learned through lots of talking. Married 23 yrs, good luck to you!
Can you explain a little further about the romance thing?
Guys how long would you tolerate this? 
Re: Guys how long would you tolerate this? 
