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Hmmm... Nah, nope. I can't imagine being a woman. I appreciate my masculinity and what the Almighty Divine endowed me with.

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Very F'd up. This would not have been fabulous if the man mutiliated his wife who filed for divorce. No one would be laughing. It would not be PC to even hint that this was funny.

Why is this so funny? Really? It has come to this now.
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I'll agree that a lot more people would be upset if the roles were reversed.

I don't know, it was comedy. It isn't that terrible.

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If she gets off with a light sentence I think it would be a very good idea if there were laws put in place to curb the trend if you catch my drift. She was charged with torture and aggravated mayhem. WTF? Is this not more serious than that? Really?
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205. Aggravated Mayhem. A person is guilty of aggravated mayhem when he or she unlawfully, under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the physical or psychological well-being of another person, intentionally causes permanent disability or disfigurement of another human being or deprives a human being of a limb, organ, or member of his or her body. For purposes of this section, it is not necessary to prove an intent to kill. Aggravated mayhem is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for life with the possibility of parole.

206. Torture. Every person who, with the intent to cause cruel or extreme pain and suffering for the purpose of revenge, extortion, persuasion, or for any sadistic purpose, inflicts great bodily injury as defined in Section 12022.7 upon the person of another, is guilty of torture. The crime of torture does not require any proof that the victim suffered pain.

206.1. Torture is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for a term of life.

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Yikes, quite inappropriate to be making fun of this situation. What are these "women?" thinking, "Why should the dog suffer?" People need to think a little before open their mouths, especially when your audience is millions of people.
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It should be attempted murder. The law need to be changed. Cut such a vascular area is not like cuttin off an arm. He nearly died. It is so horrible. I can not believe that the producers allowed those women to speak so carelessly of this crime.

But why is it so easy to make fun of this and why is the reaction of so many women unsympathetic. There seems to be a deep fount of hostility and anger towards men. I think it is because of the crimes against woman and children reported in the media.

The utter lack of laws to keep pedophiles locked away forever. The impression is that the lax laws seem to be because of male control of the judiciary. These men get light sentices and they are known to be incurable .

. Why is there no war on child moleters, sex offenders? Women have been instrumental in getting strong rape laws enacted. It was an uphill battle. Domestic abuse, difficult to get male dominated law enforcement to prosecute men who abuse women. The sex trade, manipulating underage girls into porn.

The tourist industry that caters to men traveling to South East Asia to have sex with enslaved children and young boys and girls. If any one cared about this depravity it would be easy to stop. There is the perception that any law that involves curtailing male sexual freedom is difficult or impossible to enact.

There is also the preception that Men seem to be very protective of thier sexual entitlements even if it is harmful to others.

The porn industry objectifies women and has abusive practices but it is those factors are either minimized or denied. There is very little sympathy or concern for women who face the unrealistic sexual expectation by men who get their sex education from porn. It's called spicing things up. It hard to accept that it is not code for act like that porn actress and not yourself.

I have read very unsympathetic comment by men when women accuses a man of rape or sexual assault. The same for the release of private sex tapes of women released by a bf - I have never once read a any critisizem of the bf but but a rush to see the tape and glee at the humiliation of the women. They are called ****s for making the film.

There is no reason to be find attempted murder funny. The fact that there is laughter may be emblematic an apparently intractable differences in our perception of what is acceptable sexual behavior.

It is frightening to consider that if you are a woman or child and you are unlucky enough to be targeted by a sexual predator that your life is forever changed. But the predator gets a year or two in jail if he is caught and he gets out to distroy more lives. This effects the life of every woman on the planet thorougout her life.

That may be the reason some women are so unsympathetic. It may be the feeling that if men had the same worries about being sexually violated as women, they would be more interested in enacting laws to protect the vulnerable. Just a thought or two . .
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If she gets off with a light sentence I think it would be a very good idea if there were laws put in place to curb the trend if you catch my drift. She was charged with torture and aggravated mayhem. WTF? Is this not more serious than that? Really?
I agree but I think the law should cover all sexual assult. It is about time. It cutting off a man penis is a cause for new laws than pedophilia and sexual predation are long overdue for new laws. Sexual preditors should receive life with out parole. I would not support a law that just addresses the violation of men and not the violation of woman and children.

What do we value as a society? It's reflected in what we find punishable. It you thonk that stiffer senticing needs to be enacted to curtail the practice of penis amputation how about laws to put sexual preditors behind bars for life. That would prevent the destruction of millions of lives..

If she gets a few years like a pedophiles, would that be fair enough. If not then all of the sentencing guidelines need changing not just the ones protecting male genitals.
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I take it by sexual predators you are also including women like the female teachers who have seduced and slept with middle school aged boys. Am I right?

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Let's keep this somewhere within the horizon line of the original post, which is pretty straightforward.

Were this a panel of men making jokes about the sexual mutilation of a woman ... none of them would still have jobs. And deservedly so.
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Let's keep this somewhere within the horizon line of the original post, which is pretty straightforward.

Were this a panel of men making jokes about the sexual mutilation of a woman ... none of them would still have jobs. And deservedly so.
I agree totally. They would be chastized by society and never work again in the industry.
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