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I do understand the theory behind it. I just think it is dangerous to basically imply that if two fathers are standing next to each other, one pudgy, the other in good shape, the pudgy one must be the better father willing to invest more time in his children.
No, that comparison would not be fair - nor valid. Compare the father to his own body prior to having children. No doubt there would have to be adjustments for various obfuscating factors, and/or a similar control group that married but did not have children.

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On the other end of the spectrum, if my W let herself go or got above a certain weight, it would kill my physical attraction to her, so I understand where you are coming from.
You now what the difference is? You tell your wife that she has gained a few too many pounds, you can at least say you're concerned for her health! I tell DH he has lost a few too many pounds, I'm an azzhole who is insecure and only wants to keep him down.

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There are a lot of women out there who are willing to sacrifice sexual attraction to have companionship, stability, and a family.
That's what so many men are afraid of.
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That's what so many men are afraid of.
Thanks for catching that Buddy, missed that post. So curious, the woman who sacrifices sexual attraction to have companionship, stability, and a family, couldn't that be viewed as a negative to the guy. I mean, at the onset, maybe he thinks she is really sexually attracted to him, but if it isn't genuine it will wear off, and then what is he left with?
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That's what so many men are afraid of.
To be fair, men do it, too.

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Thanks for catching that Buddy, missed that post. So curious, the woman who sacrifices sexual attraction to have companionship, stability, and a family, couldn't that be viewed as a negative to the guy. I mean, at the onset, maybe he thinks she is really sexually attracted to him, but if it isn't genuine it will wear off, and then what is he left with?
What is he left with? I'd guess a marriage to his "best friend" involving sex that is to some degree unenthusiastic if/when they do it at all.

This isn't really a gender issue so much as a societal one. We're told to we should find a mate and settle down, have kids, don't be an old maid, you don't want to die alone, etc. etc. We're told that sex isn't nearly as important as other things in marriage. We know the pool of decent available partners fluctuates with our target age and we know that fertility is finite. It's no surprise so many marry someone they aren't actually physically/chemically attracted to in order to have a life partner and be able to have children.

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The article never makes the claim that pudgy guys are more attractive to women beyond the title.

Probably because they're not.

In the article it's not even discussed....unless I missed it.

All it claimed is that pudgy guys invest more time in their children, which even if true doesn't mean they're attractive.

Sounds like a crap article with a headline made up to get people to click.
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I really would love to know why so many men want everyone to believe that women are more attracted to out of shape men?

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What is he left with? I'd guess a marriage to his "best friend" involving sex that is to some degree unenthusiastic if/when they do it at all.

This isn't really a gender issue so much as a societal one. We're told to we should find a mate and settle down, have kids, don't be an old maid, you don't want to die alone, etc. etc. We're told that sex isn't nearly as important as other things in marriage. We know the pool of decent available partners fluctuates with our target age and we know that fertility is finite. It's no surprise so many marry someone they aren't actually physically/chemically attracted to in order to have a life partner and be able to have children.
Agreed, it is not gender specific and more a societal one of what is "expected". The best example, how long goes by when a couple is together before everyone starts asking them "When are you getting married". After they are married, how long before everyone starts asking them "When are you going to have kids". Also, from what I have seen, a guy who is single later in his life is treated in a more positive view then a similar female.

Still sucks nonetheless to make a commitment to someone believing they actually desire you when in fact that may not be the case.
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I really would love to know why so many men want everyone to believe that women are more attracted to out of shape men?
This was based from a professor of anthropology at Yale University, don't they have anything better to study lol I don't like the fact that the author doesn't make any effort from what I can tell to quantify what "pudgy" is.

Who knows though, this is a quote from a related article:

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As for women finding pudgy men more attractive, this seems to be simply up to the woman's own taste. While Bribiescas' research may suggest that older pudgy “dad bods” are what the ladies are looking for, other studies suggest that some women go for leaner men, as it is a sign of a high metabolism and therefore good genes for potential offspring. In addition, according to The Telegraph, slim bodies are also often a sign of higher sex drives and higher sperm counts, two equally important qualities for reproduction.
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I really would love to know why so many men want everyone to believe that women are more attracted to out of shape men?
You could say the same about the "plus size" model women.
Not that there is anything wrong with plus size, it's just that there is a push for men to accept that, and now there's a push to accept plus size men.

IMO, plus size is becoming the new normal in western countries, if anything it's all a marketing plot to sell lots of crap. All these "studies" are really business focused market research.

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You could say the same about the "plus size" model women.
Not that there is anything wrong with plus size, it's just that there is a push for men to accept that, and now there's a push to accept plus size men.
You're always very even-handed on gender issues.

It's almost like we're getting told that men are wrong to pay so much attention to women's appearance while, at the same time, getting told that women DO pay a lot of attention to men's appearance.

It's as if a previously identified social injustice is being rectified from both ends at the same time. It may be understandable but it sure is confusing.
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Agreed, it is not gender specific and more a societal one of what is "expected". The best example, how long goes by when a couple is together before everyone starts asking them "When are you getting married". After they are married, how long before everyone starts asking them "When are you going to have kids". Also, from what I have seen, a guy who is single later in his life is treated in a more positive view then a similar female.

Still sucks nonetheless to make a commitment to someone believing they actually desire you when in fact that may not be the case.
I think it is gender specific.

Tell someone that you married them even though they weren't the sexiest person you'd known but because of all the other wonderful qualities they have and I'd guess more women would be okay with that then men.

Also, think men are more susceptible to experience a fall off in sexual activity with their spouse once the New Relationship Experience is over.
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You could say the same about the "plus size" model women.
Not that there is anything wrong with plus size, it's just that there is a push for men to accept that, and now there's a push to accept plus size men.

IMO, plus size is becoming the new normal in western countries, if anything it's all a marketing plot to sell lots of crap. All these "studies" are really business focused market research.

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I think it is gender specific.

Tell someone that you married them even though they weren't the sexiest person you'd known but because of all the other wonderful qualities they have and I'd guess more women would be okay with that then men.

Also, think men are more susceptible to experience a fall off in sexual activity with their spouse once the New Relationship Experience is over.
I think it is person specific. I have a friend back in Arizona who has a fetish for big women. BIG...

He is skinny and weighs about 140 pounds, His wife weighs about 400. And what is really fun is he likes her to parade around the house in short-shorts. So every time I would go over to their house I was treated to the sight of her fat-waterfall legs. The fat kind of cascaded down her legs like stalactites. Yum....
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