I have actually never been with a woman younger than me. On average, the women I have been intimate with in the past have been about 10 years older than myself. My oldest was old enough to be my mom (in her 60s). My wife was the spring chicken, a year older than me.
LOL Did you make sure the batteries on her life alert necklace were fully charged before making sweet love?
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I feel sorry for those with depression, mental illness, hangnails, bad hair, bad childhood memories, etc. I feel sorry for the visually impaired but that doesn't mean I want a blind person flying my airplane and my compassion won't make the flight any safer.
This thread is very deaturbing. I wonder why this is ok. Why is it ok to have a thread with a title that celerbrates the objectification of young girls? the title is deeply offensive. Women = body parts for sexual use. Young girls are even better body parts. I just find this desturbing. The celebration of the sexualization of younger and younger women by old men is simply disgusting to me. These old men have had their chance at youth. Now they look with averace to shipon off thier youth like leeches. Why is it acceptable to view any segment of humanity as service object.
How can you regard young girls "tails". They are living human beings. They have purpose in their lives the freedom to mature without the imposition of old men circling them like wild dogs. What do they have in common with these woman, what will they talk about? They are separated by generations and cannot possibly understand them. They certainly don't care about them as peopjus except the parts that they can use, pleasure. ust their "tails". So how is this supportable by those of us with minds not emersed in a sex sex sex. Why should we support the use of young women as sperm receptacles for played out old men.
Mom and dad, If you are wondering what to tell your daughters as they hit their teens, refer to this thread as a a good object lesson. The problem is that the advances of these men are often intrusive and unwelcomed. I teach students about this age and they are very frank. They are frequently approached by old men, obviously looking to have sex with them. The old perv is a running joke and unwelcomed presence.
I am at a loss to understand why men are so angry when their wives dismiss theor need for sex. Women read this garbage and the message is clear. Women are useful for sex. The arts of them, thoughts feeling emotions right to choose what to do with their bodies.
It is not feminism that makes a women declare their right to refuse, it is the fear of being used. Reading this garbage and ready acceptence as an appropriate topic for a marriage forum, is ample confirmation of a woman right to jave sex when she desires it
I wonder how many men who regard these young women as objects for their sexual gratification, have daughters in their 20s? I wonder how they would feel if these girls were persued by old men looking for a young body part to masturbate into. . Posted via Mobile Device
Nothing you said is relavent to calling young women tail and to seek them out for their tail. It is dehumanizing and no other group could be spoken about in this manner except women. It is difficult for me to understand how you came to the conclution that young women were somehow responsible for men regarding them as sex objects. Most young women don't welcome being used but I may be wrong.
Young women don't call their bodies tail and I am certain they do not see themselves as walking tails waiting for an old man to come alone and use them.
I teach young men and women in this age group. 100s of young men and women have pasted through my classes.. There were many relationships, engagements and marriages not one was in a relationship with an old man.
However, they do talk about being approached by old men. They call them pervs.
I don't know where I said men are to blame I said the men who regard women as objects effect the attitude of many women towards men. I don't think women are at fault for having a normal human reaction thier objectification. That is unless women are expected to never object to anything men do.
I reserve my right to speak as I feel and I don't care who calls me a feminazi. It wrong and going down the tied raid of men being blamed every time a women say anything that is less than gushing is a crock.
Men are not weak the ones with a healthy ego can voice thier objection with out feeling attached or my concerns negated because they cannot admit that they are wrong. Posted via Mobile Device
Nothing you said is relavent to calling young women tail and to seek them out for their tail. It is dehumanizing and no other group could be spoken about in this manner except women. It is difficult for me to understand how you came to the conclution that young women were somehow responsible for men regarding them as sex objects. Most young women don't welcome being used but I may be wrong.
Young women don't call their bodies tail and I am certain they do not see themselves as walking tails waiting for an old man to come alone and use them.
I teach young men and women in this age group. 100s of young men and women have pasted through my classes.. There were many relationships, engagements and marriages not one was in a relationship with an old man.
However, they do talk about being approached by old men. They call them pervs.
I don't know where I said men are to blame I said the men who regard women as objects effect the attitude of many women towards men. I don't think women are at fault for having a normal human reaction thier objectification. That is unless women are expected to never object to anything men do.
I reserve my right to speak as I feel and I don't care who calls me a feminazi. It wrong and going down the tied raid of men being blamed every time a women say anything that is less than gushing is a crock.
Men are not weak the ones with a healthy ego can voice thier objection with out feeling attached or my concerns negated because they cannot admit that they are wrong. Posted via Mobile Device
Thing is, the thread isn't really praising the situation you're describing. In fact it was started by a woman criticizing this kind of interaction. And the phrase "young tail" wasn't chosen by men, but you seemed to say that in your first post. No one is trying to keep you from speaking your mind, but I think you're criticizing something that has little to do with the people you're criticizing.
First, the standard boilerplate disclaimer that while we are talking about a large group of males and females, we are not talking about *every* man and woman, and the fact that individual exceptions are all over the place, it does not invalidate the shape and distribution of the larger population.
/prefix "as a group, "
I am hearing a lot of bemoaning that as women get older they have to compete with younger women for the affection and attentions of the more desirable men (who have status, money, power, looks, etc), and that the younger women have more power in the dating market due to youth, beauty and fertility.
What about the young men, who as a group have less status, money, power, etc. who have to compete with the older men who have more? I don't see a single iota of sympathy for them from the gals here. They have no issue with young women passing over the guys around their own age on the basis of things that generally correlate with age in men. Until I see that, you're not going to get much sympathy from me about being passed over for a younger gal.
Like it or not, it's a harsh truth with a lot of evolutionary reasons behind it.
From the wikipedia entry for "hypergamy".
Quote:
Some evolutionary psychologists believe that women exhibit mate-selective preferences for spouses who are greater than them in terms of attained physical attractiveness, educational level, job status, social standing, and capital accumulation. In comparison, males would tend to place higher emphasis on the value of physical attractiveness in a woman alone.[5][6]
In an anthology about money and relationships by many prominent female writers, the authors expressed that the role money plays in determining how women select long-term male partners is often considered a taboo subject
I think most gals have NO idea what it's like for a young man, when the girl he has a relationship with decides to trade up . It happens every day, and the message about it delivered to men from they day they are born is "Deal with it. Make something more/better of yourself/money/etc and climb the ranks of men so you can be more successful with women". Often, It makes an mental impact (often resulting in bitterness that needs resolving) and further fuels the drive of young men to make them selves successful.
It's just the way life is.
I'll bet that most of the men here have experienced it when they were younger and dating. I certainly did, and it was nothing unusual -- very few women marry (and stay married to) the first guy they date. As individuals, we remember what it's like to have been dumped when we were young because they wanted more than we had to offer. And later in life, when we have a lot more to offer, we tend to take up the opportunity to get with the girls who wouldn't give us the time of day when we were younger. Why shouldn't we? After all, no one is ever telling young women to settle for less than the best guy they can get.
As our experiences are different sides of the same coin, I expect these statements to be mildly polarizing along gender lines...
I love that girl. She's so talented. We met on the streets in santa monica almost 5 years ago. Dang. I was sketching, she was waiting for a spot to sing. Fast friends. But that song cracks me up!!
First, the standard boilerplate disclaimer that while we are talking about a large group of males and females, we are not talking about *every* man and woman, and the fact that individual exceptions are all over the place, it does not invalidate the shape and distribution of the larger population.
/prefix "as a group, "
I am hearing a lot of bemoaning that as women get older they have to compete with younger women for the affection and attentions of the more desirable men (who have status, money, power, looks, etc), and that the younger women have more power in the dating market due to youth, beauty and fertility.
What about the young men, who as a group have less status, money, power, etc. who have to compete with the older men who have more? I don't see a single iota of sympathy for them from the gals here. They have no issue with young women passing over the guys around their own age on the basis of things that generally correlate with age in men. Until I see that, you're not going to get much sympathy from me about being passed over for a younger gal.
Like it or not, it's a harsh truth with a lot of evolutionary reasons behind it.
From the wikipedia entry for "hypergamy".
I think most gals have NO idea what it's like for a young man, when the girl he has a relationship with decides to trade up . It happens every day, and the message about it delivered to men from they day they are born is "Deal with it. Make something more/better of yourself/money/etc and climb the ranks of men so you can be more successful with women". Often, It makes an mental impact (often resulting in bitterness that needs resolving) and further fuels the drive of young men to make them selves successful.
It's just the way life is.
I'll bet that most of the men here have experienced it when they were younger and dating. I certainly did, and it was nothing unusual -- very few women marry (and stay married to) the first guy they date. As individuals, we remember what it's like to have been dumped when we were young because they wanted more than we had to offer. And later in life, when we have a lot more to offer, we tend to take up the opportunity to get with the girls who wouldn't give us the time of day when we were younger. Why shouldn't we? After all, no one is ever telling young women to settle for less than the best guy they can get.
As our experiences are different sides of the same coin, I expect these statements to be mildly polarizing along gender lines...
it is what it is. /cliche
/hey... 100th post!
I'm glad this was brought up, young men are hit with this all the time. I can't recall a single time I dumped a girl, I was always dumped for someone higher on the "food chain" by young women.
By the time I hit my very early 20's I began going out with older women, usually about five years older than myself and I learned a lot from them about what makes women tick.
They taught me not to take it personally, it just was the nature of things, the best way to deal with it was to become the guy with all the advantages......
Unfortunately I forgot most of that when I finally got married at 34, my wife being 24. I was traded in back in July after 22 years of marriage, my wife trading up to a guy who is considerably less attractive, but make three times what I do. If there is any lessons in all this is we are all replaceable if the spouse can pull it off...
First, the standard boilerplate disclaimer that while we are talking about a large group of males and females, we are not talking about *every* man and woman, and the fact that individual exceptions are all over the place, it does not invalidate the shape and distribution of the larger population.
/prefix "as a group, "
I am hearing a lot of bemoaning that as women get older they have to compete with younger women for the affection and attentions of the more desirable men (who have status, money, power, looks, etc), and that the younger women have more power in the dating market due to youth, beauty and fertility.
What about the young men, who as a group have less status, money, power, etc. who have to compete with the older men who have more? I don't see a single iota of sympathy for them from the gals here. They have no issue with young women passing over the guys around their own age on the basis of things that generally correlate with age in men. Until I see that, you're not going to get much sympathy from me about being passed over for a younger gal.
Like it or not, it's a harsh truth with a lot of evolutionary reasons behind it.
From the wikipedia entry for "hypergamy".
I think most gals have NO idea what it's like for a young man, when the girl he has a relationship with decides to trade up . It happens every day, and the message about it delivered to men from they day they are born is "Deal with it. Make something more/better of yourself/money/etc and climb the ranks of men so you can be more successful with women". Often, It makes an mental impact (often resulting in bitterness that needs resolving) and further fuels the drive of young men to make them selves successful.
It's just the way life is.
I'll bet that most of the men here have experienced it when they were younger and dating. I certainly did, and it was nothing unusual -- very few women marry (and stay married to) the first guy they date. As individuals, we remember what it's like to have been dumped when we were young because they wanted more than we had to offer. And later in life, when we have a lot more to offer, we tend to take up the opportunity to get with the girls who wouldn't give us the time of day when we were younger. Why shouldn't we? After all, no one is ever telling young women to settle for less than the best guy they can get.
As our experiences are different sides of the same coin, I expect these statements to be mildly polarizing along gender lines...
it is what it is. /cliche
/hey... 100th post!
Albeit you may have a lot to do with a game I personally adore, I couldn't disagree with your post above more...such a poet.
I came across a quote recently and it completely applies here...
"A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy." -Einstein
Why is it I see the world so differently? Is money just another example of power equal to that of the muscles of early humankind? Do you really feel we are stuck within the limits of our biology and nothing more?--victims yet have all the tools necessary to choose differently?
This limiting thinking is so destructive, predictable and too comfortable. As thinking, empathetic beings are we not capable of something more than this? Am I to believe I am trapped within the confines of my biology forever while we are at a point where we can trade up hearts via transplant and treat a multitude of illnesses?
Why is it so many would like to hold fast to and believe that our mental and emotional capacity must stay at the core of the core of where we came from or that the majority must always be correct by default?
It comes down to what we choose to value in ourselves and in those we choose to love. We are capable of so much more than most are willing to believe.
I believe in limitless possibilities...like fractals. We define ourselves and then empower or disable ourselves based upon our own definitions.
Thing is, the thread isn't really praising the situation you're describing. In fact it was started by a woman criticizing this kind of interaction. And the phrase "young tail" wasn't chosen by men, but you seemed to say that in your first post. No one is trying to keep you from speaking your mind, but I think you're criticizing something that has little to do with the people you're criticizing.
I don't really care which gender started the thread, my objection is in reference to the title an some of the ensuring discussion.
Are you saying that women can't be as addled brained as men by pointing out the gender of the poster?
I don't like to speak ill of my gender but some of us can be as ill advised as men. The fact tgat we shoukd know better is another mark against us.
I dont think that a thread with this title should be on a people positive site. There have been many discussions on may-december romances but they were about relationships between men and woman who care about each other. Nothing is caring about young women who are thought of in thermes or their female anatomy
What reaction do you think you would get if you approached a young woman and said "what is your feeling about older men and young tail? You'd be lucky to leave the premises with insulting comments hurled your way . and not brick bats.
If you can't say it to them then don't say it about them.
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She's so talented. We met on the streets in santa monica almost 5 years ago. Dang. I was sketching, she was waiting for a spot to sing. Fast friends. But that song cracks me up!!
