Oh yea,NAND webcam sites they visited together, again with my evidence, showing him, he still denies. And viewing them with the other man. What it is about webcam sites that men don't want to own up to? Posted via Mobile Device
web cams bring things to a completely different level. It is one thing to view pictures / vidoes. It ia another to veiw live shows AND a huge leap into interaction. Interaction is where in my opinion the cheating begins.
I do not think viewing porn is cheating.
I do think wacking off with other men is beyond creepy for a heterosexual man.
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Wow... my co-worker (male) and I always talk this way.... I've work in Kitchens my whole life. EVERY one is the same... "Boy would I love to bonk (ANY Female Servers name)."
Nope everyone, he keeps telling me it's perfectly normal, so I guess you are all crazy with me. I mean, I sat there and showed him webcam sites on his computer and he literally had the balls to say that it wasn't him, even though he has his own personal work computer. I just don't get it. I just don't know how he can just lie about this, it is beyond ridiculous. He knows that I know that him and his friend were doing this together, I mean, I saw via emails how much more they shared. I understand men view porn, big deal, but to go to these extremes to lie about it, lie that his 'talk' with his friend was completely straight is unbelievable. Finally, I just don't know how he thinks with me knowing all this, I can just trust him and move on. What am I suppose to wait another 10 years for him to find this again? Since I have found this out, he flies way below my radar now. What am I suppose to do? Posted via Mobile Device
Your husband is at worst gay, and at best, perverted.
Guys talk on a base, surface level about the chicks we would do, who's hot, boobs, etc. At no point is any graphic detail given about arousing other guys. Any intent to arouse another man would be taken very uncomfortably by a normal man.
The thought of another dude's erection, especially someone I know personally, makes me shudder. I would not want to talk about that or bring it up or encourage it.
That kind of talk is normal, only between dudes who like other dudes.
Here is an example of a normal guy conversation of sex, starting simple and getting more explicit:
me: Tonya Harding is hot
normal guy: Yeah I'd do her
me: I'd love to tap that a$$
normal guy: I'd hit her from the back
me: I'd hang her from the rafters and splooge all over her
normal guy: haha yeah, that's awesome!
<high fives>
your husband: The thought of that gets me aroused
me: Get the hell out of my house
I had to laugh at COGuys comment, Ty. I agree completely. That is how he is trying to push it off on me, but the emails I have paint a different picture. This was so great that I am half tempted to send him your response, lol. That of course would be out of spite, and I don't want the grief with that. I did post nice777 to the sex/marriage forum on here about men on the down low. Nice777 we were in counseling, and not surprisingly, he lied about everything, or said he couldn't remember anything. I think that was the last straw for me. It was like he was defending this guy and their relationship. He made his choice, I have told him, but it isn't going over very well. I mentioned something about not being alone, that is, with another man, and he about hit the roof. I mean, really? He sat there and talked to other men about doing girls with him, etc., and I mention another man and he is gonna give me grief? I have tried to be very patient with him, gave him time, waiting for explanations, etc., but nothing. He just wants to forget it and move on. I don't think so. I am still in counseling and thank goodness becuz it is keeping me grounded. He hates my counseling, even though he has told me on a number of occasions, I need help, need to see someone cuz I believe this. Wtf? Oh, and no surprise here, but he told me that if we get divorced and go to court, this other guy will stand up for him..IMBO. So, he's giving me more reasons to pursue divorce seeing I think, this guy is still in pic, even though he has told me numerous times he has no idea what this guy is doing now. Good grief. I need to find an honest man, lol. Posted via Mobile Device
I had to laugh at COGuys comment, Ty. I agree completely. That is how he is trying to push it off on me, but the emails I have paint a different picture. This was so great that I am half tempted to send him your response, lol. That of course would be out of spite, and I don't want the grief with that. I did post nice777 to the sex/marriage forum on here about men on the down low. Nice777 we were in counseling, and not surprisingly, he lied about everything, or said he couldn't remember anything. I think that was the last straw for me. It was like he was defending this guy and their relationship. He made his choice, I have told him, but it isn't going over very well. I mentioned something about not being alone, that is, with another man, and he about hit the roof. I mean, really? He sat there and talked to other men about doing girls with him, etc., and I mention another man and he is gonna give me grief? I have tried to be very patient with him, gave him time, waiting for explanations, etc., but nothing. He just wants to forget it and move on. I don't think so. I am still in counseling and thank goodness becuz it is keeping me grounded. He hates my counseling, even though he has told me on a number of occasions, I need help, need to see someone cuz I believe this. Wtf? Oh, and no surprise here, but he told me that if we get divorced and go to court, this other guy will stand up for him..IMBO. So, he's giving me more reasons to pursue divorce seeing I think, this guy is still in pic, even though he has told me numerous times he has no idea what this guy is doing now. Good grief. I need to find an honest man, lol. Posted via Mobile Device
If you are looking to save your marriage - that's where the "Infidelity" group will be helpful.
Basically - you will need to require your H to be completely open if you ever want to feel comfortable with him again. No secret passwords - no cleaning out the browser history on his computer - etc., etc.
Or - it might just be time to consider moving on...
Oh, passwords...lol...he never did any of that...lmbo...so ready to move on! I am young, beautiful, and want to be happy, not miserable! So over this. Posted via Mobile Device
Oh, passwords...lol...he never did any of that...lmbo...so ready to move on! I am young, beautiful, and want to be happy, not miserable! So over this. Posted via Mobile Device
Do you have kids?
Regardless - divorce is no picnic. But neither is your marriage!
I'm not sure why you would stick around in this marriage. The guy is cheating on you. Not being honest. Gaslighting you (which is very stressful emotionally because you are constantly questioning your sanity). And to top it off, he's probably gay.
What is keeping you around? Where is your self-respect?
Nothing COguy, I am filing for legal separation as we speak. And yes, this has been very emotionally stressful. Yes, we have kids. I know I need to quit second guessing myself. I guess I need to find something else to do with my time...lol...relieves stress when I talk about it, write about it. We live in a small community and this break up will be quite a shock to people. Half the dads (single ones) will be lined up at my door (jkjkjk)...I am a pretty private person, I don't share this openly with people. When the separation goes through, I don't know what I am going to tell people, even my closest ones. But with all this, I do have self-respect, and am not going to let him lie to me anymore. I deserve better than that, this I know. Posted via Mobile Device
I have posted this same question on another forum, and got the same responses as I did from you guys. You know what my h said? He said well, your hot, and these guys on here are just looking for a piece of ass. Other forum, there were no pics, like this one, IMBO...talk about emotional stress...ahhh...be a relief when he leaves! Posted via Mobile Device
I have posted this same question on another forum, and got the same responses as I did from you guys. You know what my h said? He said well, your hot, and these guys on here are just looking for a piece of ass. Other forum, there were no pics, like this one, IMBO...talk about emotional stress...ahhh...be a relief when he leaves! Posted via Mobile Device
Unless I have physical proof otherwise, I assume all women on the internet are ugly, so there goes that theory.
Tell him getting aroused with another dude is major homo stuff and if he thinks I'M crazy, I'll meet him in a public place and we'll ask local male passer'bys to set us straight.
I'm sorry you're getting gaslighted, I dealt with that during my wife's wayward time and I know how bad it sucks. You're not crazy, you are being normal. Glad you're getting out.
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