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Old 04-09-2012, 06:13 PM   #211 (permalink)
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I don't know. I'm not really doing that alone. It's like a whole group of hijackers. Why you have to point me out and make me feel all bad.
i'm glad you're amused.
now if you're done posting irrelevant stuff and attacking my reasons for starting this thread, we can go on and have some fun with it, maybe
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:14 PM   #212 (permalink)
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Do men honestly secretly like their back/butt/shoulder hair? I see men with it and wonder why they don't remove it but then I wonder if they secretly like it O_o Anyone? That would be an ugly truth.....no?
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:17 PM   #213 (permalink)
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I wanted one-liners, or little stories that seem like they are too ugly to say but have an underlying worth to them in that they explain a man's need.
And I responded to those who Ifound interesting or thought rang true. doesnt mean i discount anything else just because i dont respond to every post
You are magnifying what you view as ugly. I understand. I don't see it as ugly though. What's ugly about it? We can sum it um:

~Men like sex
~Men are capable of a deep intimate relationship where sex plays a very important role
~Men like looking at women they want to have sex with because they like sex
~Men are fallible and some will cheat
~Men are capable of loving their wives and not cheating...ever

Where's the ugly?
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:18 PM   #214 (permalink)
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Do men honestly secretly like their back/butt/shoulder hair? I see men with it and wonder why they don't remove it but then I wonder if they secretly like it O_o Anyone? That would be an ugly truth.....no?
I think women recognize that men are very visual so try to conform to ideals when looking for a man and men recognize that women aren't as visual...but seriously, nair the hair!
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:24 PM   #215 (permalink)
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You are magnifying what you view as ugly. I understand. I don't see it as ugly though. What's ugly about it? We can sum it um:

~Men like sex
~Men are capable of a deep intimate relationship where sex plays a very important role
~Men like looking at women they want to have sex with because they like sex
~Men are fallible and some will cheat
~Men are capable of loving their wives and not cheating...ever

Where's the ugly?
It seems its all about sex. You will all attack me for saying this, but I am completely sincere in that it bothers me to some extent.

Sex is sex. You can have it with almost anyone.

So where in all of this is the love? It sometimes sounds like a woman is a woman is a woman, as though she were a means to an end.

Yeah,, sex is great, the more the better.
But there must be more to relationships than sex, even to men, and all I hear is: "Whatever we do, we do it to get in your pants."

That's an ugly truth in my eyes. It diminishes what I think love should be like, which is a true connection between two people.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:30 PM   #216 (permalink)
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Ok here is one. My older sister pointed it out to me.

She said that I turned out ok considering my girl next door was a lesbian. Which later on we learned was true. I was never able to make any real progress with her. And no it was not because of me ... or was it? So here I am. That is an ugly truth.

Also while I was an alter boy I never learned my Latin.

I have an extraordinary affinity for women wearing plaid. I know that came from my high school days at our lady of eternal suffering high school ( not the real name ).

I believe in long slow deep soft wet kisses that last three days.

I Believe

I am also not interested in a woman that is interested in that boy.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:35 PM   #217 (permalink)
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It seems its all about sex. You will all attack me for saying this, but I am completely sincere in that it bothers me to some extent.

Sex is sex. You can have it with almost anyone.

So where in all of this is the love? It sometimes sounds like a woman is a woman is a woman, as though she were a means to an end.

Yeah,, sex is great, the more the better.
But there must be more to relationships than sex, even to men, and all I hear is: "Whatever we do, we do it to get in your pants."

That's an ugly truth in my eyes. It diminishes what I think love should be like, which is a true connection between two people.
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Yes well I agree with you 100%

I don't know if it's ugly or not but it definitely sucks and not sucks in the way that men are apparently always thinking about.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:51 PM   #218 (permalink)
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Sex is sex. You can have it with almost anyone.
You are so far off base it is UFB.

Sex is not just sex for many of us.

To a great extent this is just masturbation in a vagina that you refer to. I understand from a single guy going to get laid persepctive sex can be just sex.

Maybe this is why you do not see the difference in an EA from just going out and banging someone. Totally different things going on here.

Men need a sexual relaionship with their mates. It is not just sex for most of us. It is the way we connect emotionally.

Sexual fullfillment for most husbands is an exclusive sexual relationship with their wife. I got married for this. I wanted to live my life with my lover.

But have we discovered an ugly truth about some women? Is this why so many don't get it? They view sex as just sex and not important?

It seems you are just reiterating that women need to connect and love to have sexual fullfillment. Ok fine. Well men need to have sexual fullfillment to connect, love and be loved.

The ugly truth is that many of us love our wives more than ourselves and some husbands don't. And none of us is perfect.
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:11 PM   #219 (permalink)
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But have we discovered an ugly truth about some women? Is this why so many don't get it? They view sex as just sex and not important?
this was one thing my exw told me when talking about her affairs.
' no big deal, just sex and sex is just sex. doesnt mean anything'

now that was an ugly truth from her i guess
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You are so far off base it is UFB.

Sex is not just sex for many of us.

To a great extent this is just masturbation in a vagina that you refer to. I understand from a single guy going to get laid persepctive sex can be just sex.

Maybe this is why you do not see the difference in an EA from just going out and banging someone. Totally different things going on here.

Men need a sexual relaionship with their mates. It is not just sex for most of us. It is the way we connect emotionally.

Sexual fullfillment for most husbands is an exclusive sexual relationship with their wife. I got married for this. I wanted to live my life with my lover.

But have we discovered an ugly truth about some women? Is this why so many don't get it? They view sex as just sex and not important?

It seems you are just reiterating that women need to connect and love to have sexual fullfillment. Ok fine. Well men need to have sexual fullfillment to connect, love and be loved.

The ugly truth is that many of us love our wives more than ourselves and some husbands don't. And none of us is perfect.


CAN'T AGREE MORE.

There REALLY needs to be a "LOVE IT" button.....
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:15 PM   #221 (permalink)
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It seems its all about sex. You will all attack me for saying this, but I am completely sincere in that it bothers me to some extent.

Sex is sex. You can have it with almost anyone.

So where in all of this is the love? It sometimes sounds like a woman is a woman is a woman, as though she were a means to an end.

Yeah,, sex is great, the more the better.
But there must be more to relationships than sex, even to men, and all I hear is: "Whatever we do, we do it to get in your pants."

That's an ugly truth in my eyes. It diminishes what I think love should be like, which is a true connection between two people.
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As a women, I have never looked at sex like this in my marriage. Neither has my husband.... sex is NOT just sex, sex is "Making Love" ....my husband will not even refer to it as "sex", that is how strongly he feels.... There is a very moving spirited well of emotional sharing that floods us when we are together in each others arms , it has the power to uplift me on high....like nothing else... something profoundly sacred about it.

I always find it very sad when I read how others view sex like this .....JUST SEX... I can not relate to this. Never had that experience.

You might be able to have it with JUST ANYONE...but why would you want too? This is diminishing it's beauty, I also feel it has the power to depersonalize our emotions when we are engaging without "feeling" behind this act, it takes a part of us.

For the perspective I am trying to relate .... please read some of my points here : What I will Teach my Daughter about SEX...in relation to LOVE, her emotions, her life

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2. I will teach my daughter .....Sex is beautiful thing ...but it has it's place, there is a time & a season for such beauty... it is meant to be shared between 2 people who LOVE each other. There is no greater pleasure God has given us on this earth, no emotional BONDING that has more meaning -as the giving & receiving in this way, that this act has the awesome potential to Create NEW LIFE..... that it should never be used casually, or carelessly, because of this very fact, It carries the greatest of responsibilities with it. It is the awesomest of the AWESOME. I will refer to it as "sacred" even.
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8. I will teach my daughter there is a heavy EMOTIONAL side to sex.... Sex releases certain chemicals in our brains that change the way we think ...the hormones released work to bond us to our partner, it's like gluing two pieces of paper together. If you tried to tear those pages apart, the break wouldn't be a clean one. The same kind of thing happens when there's a breakup in a sexual relationship. These break ups can be as painful as mini-divorces. If this happens over & over & over, it has a way of de-personalizing our emotions.

What is the difference between making love and having sex

What Sex Means to a Man

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CAN'T AGREE MORE.

There REALLY needs to be a "LOVE IT" button.....
I think LauraF knows my buttons all too well. LOL.

I feel like Jose Jalapeno on a stick.
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Whoever they were ... they were able to make me reflect on things that had been buried for a long time. Like I said there is good and bad in all things. I had to walk away from the keyboard and literally give my wife a hug. That was no joke. And what ever their motive this was actually ok even though it got to me. A bit cathartic. Ultimately it reminded me of what a great person I married, so it is all good. No harm LauraF.

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D'oh. I do agree with her to a point. I do think wrapping my mind around this idea that men always think about sex is hard for me to grasp but I do think cheating is a choice and many men choose not to cheat. The same goes for women really. They might cheat for different reasons but it's still cheating.

Beats me. I've no idea how men are so productive in their lives with all that thinking about sex. I've never had that problem but I'd imagine it'd be quite distracting and frustrating.
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For real ... hmm ... That's too bad. I'm really sorry that happened (And I'm not joking when I say that).
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