sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant you are clueless as to what makes a real man...one who is attractive to the opposite sex. hint: it has nothing to do with how virile you try to make the world believe you are.
And preachy sanctimonious women don't turn many of the opposite sex on either.
I don't believe men universally look at other women. I think there are men who use their maleness as an excuse to do so. The effect of this myth is that you get men who worry that there is something wrong with them because they aren't thinking of sex every hour of the day or looking at women. Not fair to cause self-doubt in those guys.
They would have less self doubt if they got their T levels adjusted. Confidence in a man is important but he owns that one himself. You carry your own watter in life.
Some women do like effeminate men. No argument their. There is a range of attractiveness. Most heterosexual men are stimulated by women. Why is this so hard to believe. I guess then this is somehow not PC. After all men are exactly the same as women. It must be that way.
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No, he's for real. He was genuinely concerned. And I know he has turned down sex on offer because he's planning to wait for marriage.
He needs to man up and not worry about what other people say. This is just another symptom. He sounds over the top Beta at the least. Otherwise he would not complain about such a thing.
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"Why do we fall? So we might learn to pick ourselves up."
"It’s not who we are underneath, but what we do that defines us."
Last edited by Entropy3000; 04-25-2012 at 05:39 PM.
sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant you are clueless as to what makes a real man, and one who is attractive to the opposite sex. hint: it has nothing to do with how virile you try to make the world believe you are.
If this were Plentyoffish.com I could see your point, but I don't think any of us in the thread are showing off for the women posters to appear "attractive to the opposite sex".
Can't speak for anyone else in this thread but I damn sure don't post anything on this site to get a pat on the head from anyone to crown me worthy of her admiration.
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Rectitude--Courage--Benevolence--Respect--Honesty--Honor--Loyalty
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
"Why do we fall? So we might learn to pick ourselves up."
"It’s not who we are underneath, but what we do that defines us."
If this were Plentyoffish.com I could see your point, but I don't think any of us in the thread are showing off for the women posters to appear "attractive to the opposite sex".
Can't speak for anyone else in this thread but I damn sure don't post anything on this site to get a pat on the head from anyone to crown me worthy of her admiration.
Crap!
I was just really digging that "like" you threw my way.
And to be clear, once again, speaking for only myself, but I'm adamant in my responses because I don't want anybody, man or woman, to walk around naive.
Statements like this:
"I don't believe men universally look at other women."
Make me want to set the record straight not for myself, but so that another person doesn't end up disappointed or hurt down the line because they received a sugarcoated, feminized version of what men truly are. It's similar to the threads where women catch their husbands watching p*rn and are crushed because they too thought they had "One of the good ones."
I don't think we're pigs or disgusting for what we are, and want to be able to have our tendencies expressed for what they are, and not under the pretense that the ones that are this way are pigs, but the ones who don't like that kind of stuff are the good ones. Because more often than not, that line of thinking has blindsided many a woman when she learns that she's been dealing with a pig in sheep's clothing.
each of you trying to prove your manliness by stressing how sexually driven you are......
you're clueless.....it's sort of embarrassing
I think being men we can speak for ourselves on this one. The thread is called ugly truths.
Men have testosterone. This influences the man to be interested in women. It does not mean that the brain cannot control these urges but it means that a normal healthy male is sexually stimulated by a normal healthy female.
Some men are very passive. Have low confidence and tend to show some level of female traits. These folks often have low testosterone or a repressed social upbringing that teaches them that sex is bad and dirty.
These things impact their thinking and their behavior. Other are just submissive in nature. Still other are liars and try to manipulate women by telling them what they want to hear.
Men with low T have a lower sex drive. Having a good T level is what gives men their male characteristics.
This is biology. So why penalize an honest man with high drive and one who chooses to be faithful. They would seem to have high character. A guy who is not intereseted in women is never tempted. A man should defend himself. Anything else is pathetic.
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
"Why do we fall? So we might learn to pick ourselves up."
"It’s not who we are underneath, but what we do that defines us."
I can assure you that this guy has no interest in me to need to convince me he is a nice guy. His testosterone is normal. In this as well as other areas, everyone has their own normal I'm sure even it is not he most common position. There are plenty of things women are told they like or do as well that doesn't hold for everyone of them too.
What are his T levels? How in the world would you know what a man's T level is?
Not being maliscious but maybe he is not heterosexual.
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
"Why do we fall? So we might learn to pick ourselves up."
"It’s not who we are underneath, but what we do that defines us."
If this were Plentyoffish.com I could see your point, but I don't think any of us in the thread are showing off for the women posters to appear "attractive to the opposite sex".
Can't speak for anyone else in this thread but I damn sure don't post anything on this site to get a pat on the head from anyone to crown me worthy of her admiration.
I am happily married. This is a forum to discuss marriage. This thread was asking for the truth.
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Rectitude--Courage--Benevolence--Respect--Honesty--Honor--Loyalty
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
"Why do we fall? So we might learn to pick ourselves up."
"It’s not who we are underneath, but what we do that defines us."
And to be clear, once again, speaking for only myself, but I'm adamant in my responses because I don't want anybody, man or woman, to walk around naive.
Statements like this:
"I don't believe men universally look at other women."
Make me want to set the record straight not for myself, but so that another person doesn't end up disappointed or hurt down the line because they received a sugarcoated, feminized version of what men truly are. It's similar to the threads where women catch their husbands watching p*rn and are crushed because they too thought they had "One of the good ones."
I don't think we're pigs or disgusting for what we are, and want to be able to have our tendencies expressed for what they are, and not under the pretense that the ones that are this way are pigs, but the ones who don't like that kind of stuff are the good ones. Because more often than not, that line of thinking has blindsided many a woman when she learns that she's been dealing with a pig in sheep's clothing.
__________________
Rectitude--Courage--Benevolence--Respect--Honesty--Honor--Loyalty
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
"Why do we fall? So we might learn to pick ourselves up."
"It’s not who we are underneath, but what we do that defines us."
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