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Old 04-13-2012, 09:00 PM   #31 (permalink)
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No i just dislike the picture some radical feminist try to paint and its a picture that all women are either (bisexual, lesbians) are built to be sexual freak animal's and that often fits into their agenda of detaching women far far away from things like child bearing, child rearing and relationships with a male as the "leader".

I also dislike the lies the Misogynist promote and their claims that you have to cheat on all women cause they will cheat on you cause apparently all women are (sl#ts, or not logical enough) to deny sex and will screw the next "better" man that appears. Many of these guys are straight beta males and have no confidence.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:08 PM   #32 (permalink)
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All due respect but maybe you should have spent less time in Phy I and more time out in the world.

Women are by nature master manipulators, they`ve had to be for centuries in this patriarchal culture.
lol i know women lie a lot of small white lies here and there often to avoid confrontation or not hurt someones's feelings.

Did you also know that women are the more the more traditional, compassionate and emotional sex?

So yes women lie and they are also terrible at hiding it. Not to brag about male superiority but the best liar's and best lawyers tend to be males. Lying and cheating and going behind people's backs is huge in law school and only way to succeed. The top firms in the country in transactional law the rich firms are no doubt often filled with mostly males and all the litigation work and yes court room lawyers they prefer to be men often. (they prefer males over females but more women are getting law degree's now as in general more degrees period than men) and these guy's are excellent liar's and great backstabbers. Women do lie no doubt buddy i never denied this but they are not great liar's (imo). I have spent plenty of time in the real world so not sure what is with that comment. Women in law are often poor liar's
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:10 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Do you mean Alpha males?

My ex literally said to me at one point (when he was caught, obviously) that trust was not important in a marriage.

Who the hell did I marry? I know guys are biologically driven to spread it around. I know. But the lying. O. M. G.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:12 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I love how people group all of anything together.



Stop it already.

I know plenty of women who are great liars. Why do you think I have a hard time being friends with women? So many liars!

I know a lot of honest men.

I know a lot of honest women.

I don't lie to avoid confrontation. that's just lame.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:28 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Allot of devil's advocate and political correctness i see.



That girl- sorry i was not meaning to say that all women are terrible liar's i realize this may offend some women as you dont want to be told your sex is incapable of being good at something. I never said you lied to avoid confrontation. However lying to avoid confrontation is one of the key reasons people chose to lie and that is regardless of the sex of the person.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:32 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Mich--and you base this on what?
Exactly my point.

I left off the "evidence" to prove a point.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:37 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Agggh do you really want me to explain it all in great detail? do you really want to see countless stats and research findings?


What i said is not at all an absurd notion anyone who has studied human evolution and psychology and knows the differences between male and female brain would arrive at the same conclusion i arrived at. Need i list a number of well known Psychologist, or scientist who hold the same belief?.. I am not denying that female cheating/infidelity occurs and it increases in some types of culture/societies however by and large males will and have through history cheated more and been the far more promiscuous sex. I like to stick to facts and detail thus i block out what misogynist say and crazy radical feminist who try to paint the picture that all women are lesbians just cause they are lesbians.

I will if you want it will be very time consuming for me to dig all of this up and very long posts but i will do it.
Well, leaving off any odd presumptions about my motivations, I would like you to point to a source other than your educational pursuits.

I've read studies regarding promiscuity too. And the current ones comment on both genders having promiscuity strategies at play at roughly the same rate.

I have no axe to grind but one:

Some people are cheaters, others are not. Attempting to show that men are the ones programmed for this and somehow women are not flies against both my experience and empirical data.

I suppose we could trot out studies. But we don't have to.

Just please do not imply that your educational pursuits qualify your opinion anymore than anyone else here.

If you left it at life experiences i don't think I'd have made it an issue.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:43 PM   #38 (permalink)
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No. Cheating takes a multitude of steps and the ignoring of boundaries to get there. Each one is a step that could be avoided. My wife said to me a while ago (she has always been emphatically against cheating) that she now believes anyone could cheat (her good "religous" friend cheated) given the right circumstances and I called bullsh!t. No one is going to tempt me to betray my vows and jeopardize my family. Trust me, I have had my opportunities but as soon as I realize what is happenning I go the other way.

The only time I can see cheating being somewhat excusable is when the spouse is denied sex for no good reason and they have exhausted all avenues to resolve it. Still, divorce should come first.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:47 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Goldmember357 - you remind me very much of a friend of ours. He's a policeman (detective now) and has been for nearly 30 years. He's a good man but he has become very cynical and jaded over the years... he thinks everyone is either scum or a victim...cause most of the people he deals with all day are either scum or a victim.

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Old 04-13-2012, 09:48 PM   #40 (permalink)
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One last thought. When you pick someone to share the vows with you pick them mind, body and soul. You have to think about all of that before you walk the aisle. Once you are married, you must be absolutely committed to the marriage. Marriage is so much more than some a$$ on the side. If your spouse damages the marriage in some way, I get it not working out but as an individual, you must do all you can to bring your best self into it. If you do that, infidelity won't enter the equation. I'll stop now. 2 glasses of wine and I am rambling.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:53 PM   #41 (permalink)
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While I've not cheated in 15 years, I agree with others...

I'm still human, give me a moment of weakness combined with an opportunity with a woman offering things I know/don't know I've been missing for a long time. I'm not going to say it's 100% even then that I'd cheat, but the thought would cross my mind as much as it pains me to admit it.

That's why I just strive to avoid time alone with any other woman (married or not). The best way to beat temptation is to avoid it imo.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:01 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Goldmember357 - you remind me very much of a friend of ours. He's a policeman (detective now) and has been for nearly 30 years. He's a good man but he has become very cynical and jaded over the years... he thinks everyone is either scum or a victim...cause most of the people he deals with all day are either scum or a victim.

Just saying...
Are you religious by any chance?

If that is the case than would you not agree that most people will not enter through the gates of heaven?

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Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” —Matthew 7:13-14
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“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT” (Matthew 7:14; Luke 13:23,24).
If you are not religious than what do you think of the great Agnostic and Evolutionary scholar's and scientists who's findings are analogous to mine?

My views are not really uncommon in regards to most human beings. The world is not a happy place filled with rainbow and bunnies of course i am sure you know this. I like to acknowledge the reality of things and i dislike political correctness so the people who try to play devil's advocate or be politically correct because data and facts hurts their beliefs just bother me.

But yes i see into many marriages or rather the problems people come forward with and the truth behind most divorces. I suppose that gives me a more negative gloomy and cynical view on most people and most marriages i also truly feel bad for allot of people. I present my own findings through my work and some dislike it cause its not what they want to believe i offer my sources and people still wish to question it i suppose to remain in some constant state of denial in order to avoid having their beliefs and views contradicted with facts.

I am a happy person though when not addressing gloomy topics.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:10 PM   #43 (permalink)
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no one is their best self 100% of the time. So to say that infidelity entered the equation because I didn't bring my best self is horseplop. I get it that men need sex like women need air. Women need trust like men need sex like women need air.

I don't believe that bringing your best self will guarantee anything. Cheating is a choice.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:12 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I never cheated and don't think I ever would. I think there are two kinds of cheating. One is infidelity in a reasonably happy marriage. That is wrong. The other is the person dealing with a difficult and unreasonable situation.

I know of one person who cheated but she had a very difficult and domineeing husband, so I am not sure I blame her. In another relationship, I think she would have been faithful.
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I don't cheat. I find most women attractive in one way or another but I try to keep my promises and if I have to sneak around to do something it's probably not in my best interest.
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