Sounds good; I just tire of reading full-of-yourself posts that indicate "I could have cheated many times but didn't, so many opportunities"...the simple fact that it's even being described that way is enough to make me laugh.
'Full of yourself' meaning in general, not directed at you LH...
I like the way you said this. When I hear this also it makes me think that many think they are doing some favor not cheating that it is such a burden to be tied to a person when so many others are out there. I heard my husband talking with a friend about his attractive women workers and he said some thing similar. That night I told him that this hurt me and he didnt know why. I said that what if I were to brag to my friends about all the good looking men I know and the only thing stopping me was the obligation of marriage not that I didnt want to? He under stood what I was saying.
If your a good looking confident man women who want to cheat on their husband for whatever reason will let you know!
thats my story and I'm sticking to it. there have been many times I have been this situation. and I haven't cheated ever!
Damn right I proud of myself for taking the high road even when my wife was neglecting me sexually.
It's quite possible that there have been times throughout your marriage that you neglected your wife emotionally and she chose to not get caught up in an EA, which could have likely led to a PA.
I feel like there is an unspoken sentiment among some men around here which is that it is so much harder for them to remain faithful and that we should be bowing down at their feet and kissing the ground that they walk on for doing so. It's BS.
No, I think many of you are taking too narrow of a view of it or somehow internalizing it.
The reality (for me at least) is likely that I won't get any more if my wife and I did go our separate ways. Probably less because I am not some "chick magnet". However, at least the possibility is there of finding someone that actually does desire me...
To your point, I would say it works the other way too. If a woman is feeling neglected she probably could easily get opportunities as well. From a purely physical affair standpoint it is even easier for a woman..
It's quite possible that there have been times throughout your marriage that you neglected your wife emotionally and she chose to not get caught up in an EA, which could have likely led to a PA.
I feel like there is an unspoken sentiment among some men around here which is that it is so much harder for them to remain faithful and that we should be bowing down at their feet and kissing the ground that they walk on for doing so. It's BS.
My friend told me there is this code, this look that men give when they are open to an affair. They seek women out to see if that look is returned. It's almost a secret language that is unnoticable to those of us in committed happy marriages.
I didn't believe her so I began to be more aware and to my shock she's right. I saw it. This married man did it to ME.
My husband works very long unpredicatable hours and I'm a homemaker. Plenty of opportunities for either of us to cheat. I've had friends that cheated and it doesn't take as much time as you think it would. Had one female friend meet up with a guy once a week for sex. What did that take? An hour....at the most? For me that's a trip to Wal-mart. LOL
Wait, the married men met up without me and created the "infidelity" look? I'm calling an emergency meeting of the Men's Clubhouse to rectify this injustice.
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Re: Opportunity for cheating men
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Originally Posted by livnlearn
I feel like there is an unspoken sentiment among some men around here which is that it is so much harder for them to remain faithful and that we should be bowing down at their feet and kissing the ground that they walk on for doing so. It's BS.
Thanks for including the "some" in your statement but I also feel some of it is a backlash from "some" women who think that men are mindless sex maniac zombies that would **** a mailbox if it had boobs on it. Just from the male perspective.
Just for the record, I've never cheated on my wife in our 25+ years married even during a two year period where she refused any sexual activity. Not looking for anyone to worship at my feet, just respect the fact that we don't all make decisions with our ****s.
I feel like there is an unspoken sentiment among some men around here which is that it is so much harder for them to remain faithful and that we should be bowing down at their feet and kissing the ground that they walk on for doing so. It's BS.
Yes, those same men who are batting them off with sticks in bars...you know, when the 5 hot single women come up to the married man, begging him back to their hotel room...
10 additional points to you for saying 'some' men. You mustn't forget the 'some'. Lest we generalize...
Yes, those same men who are batting them off with sticks in bars...you know, when the 5 hot single women come up to the married man, begging him back to their hotel room...
10 additional points to you for saying 'some' men. You mustn't forget the 'some'. Lest we generalize...
So you make up a story, apply it to a group of people, and laugh at it. Some may call that crazy.
***Break for PSA***
Listen fellas, don't stick your stuff in crazy
***End of PSA***
The opportunities to cheat are the same as the oppurtinity to have sex while you're single. Women that want to pursue something further let you know in the same ways. The eyes, touching when they talk to you, etc. Don't really know how this turns into a 10 page discussion.
So the assertion seems to be that ALL men will cheat at any opportunity. What a disrespectful thing for anyone to even infer about anyones character. UFB.
So then some of us come back and honestly say, that we have had opportunities to cheat and have chosen not to.
Well this does not go over well because it differs with point number one. These men must be lying because if they truly had opportunity they would never turn it down.
So are we to infer that it is felt that the average husband never gets an opportunity to cheat unless they are out at the clubs looking for wives out for attention? or whatever scenario floats your boat?
So we then lower our view of men in general as having low character even when they lead monogamous lives. This is incredibly disrespectful, condescending and sexist. You loyal husbands are not really loyal. You just are not valued by other women as worthy sexual partners. I am not sure what the message is supposed to be here. Maybe that married men should just worship their wives and that their wives are the only one who would ever desire them.
Does anyone challenge that an average woman can cheat anytime she wants? I keep hearing that women are hit on continuously by men everywhere. Venue does not matter. But an avergae woman can dress herself up. Grab her wingwoman. Go to any decent sized establishment that serves booze and hookup with one of any nimber of men if she wished. Now she can increase her odds by going to a club. Is this wrong?
Are we saying that women are never the agressor? Huh? Seriously? If you believe that you may need to get out more. If anything for many women a married man is the target for a number of reasons. Often they are looking for someone who can be discrete. There is some value in preselection. But frankly whatever is in their minds they have their way of pursuing men. One common way is a look with room key in hand offering it. I am not talking subtle here. The key is being offerred. Or just asking one if they would like to come back to their room. Maybe I am misunderstanding this because after all I am just a stupid man with no clue. But I think some women like the "stupid" quality in a man ( Body Heat reference ).
I have never been particularly agressive towards women. I have always been a high drive person however. Probably something in my upbringing. Some women like agressive men for sure. But I have found that many women will respond to a confident man having other traits she desires cause for them to be agressive in their pursuit of a man. PUA rhetoric agrees with the man showing indifference to a woman to be attractive to some women. My experience would validate this.
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Yes, those same men who are batting them off with sticks in bars...you know, when the 5 hot single women come up to the married man, begging him back to their hotel room...
10 additional points to you for saying 'some' men. You mustn't forget the 'some'. Lest we generalize...
This made me laugh. I had a picture of those paper animals hung from trees with candy in them that you hit with sticks.
Some. Some... SOME!!! I said Some! I added MY some!!!
FWIW, I wasn't the one who made up the line about the 5 hot women begging to be taken back to a hotel room...somebody else gets the credit for that gem, although I do believe a certain amount of humour and sarcasm were in play at the time...
This made me laugh. I had a picture of those paper animals hung from trees with candy in them that you hit with sticks.
This whole post has made ME laugh...For the record, I don't think that ALL men cheat or that ALL women let themselves go after marriage, but this PC/sensitivity crap is getting a little old. The people on this board should be mature enough to use the common sense that Allah gave them, and realize that when one says "Why do men....?" or "Must you women always....?" that it really doesn't mean ALL the *insert sex/race/species here*...