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Old 05-21-2012, 11:31 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Right. So an Alpha guy who can dance in a dance club might be a real threat then.

LOL. Well that was kinda the point
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No but in another setting he would be a simpleton and not an Alpha at all.
RIght, put Mike Tyson in Trumps board room and then see who becomes the Alpha.
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Found all of this fascinating when learning and reading about it. And I do think it worthwhile to be aware of, if you desire to make changes.

In practice? I don't much care what letter of the Greek alphabet I am, not anymore ... so long as I get what I want, when I want it, under terms that are most favorable to me.

My life? Is about me, as yours is about you; and as a result you get to choose how you conduct it, and what influence your conduct has on those around you. Conducting yourself proactively instead of reactively or passively.

You want to date a hot woman? Isn't going to happen from your couch or in front of your computer.
You want to be a captain of industry? Being a 9to5'er and a 'yes man' isn't going to make that happen.
Want to lose 30 pounds? Get your ass in the gym, and pay attention to what you eat.
Want others to find you attractive or interesting? Conduct your life with purpose. A purpose of your choosing and design.

And THAT ... has been the big change and realization for me.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:19 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Being a total alpha male is not what it is all cracked up to be. There is also a dark side of it as well. Prison is full of these predatory alpha males.
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Where do the epsilons, omicrons, mus, nus and thetas fit?

I see myself as more of a nabla...
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I don't think anyone needs to eat, drink, and sleep this theory-craft all of the time.

But ...

Anyone that does NOT think there are inherent social, character, and behavioral constructs that influence how a male is perceived as a potential sex partner, or life partner by females (virtually irregardless of higher animal species) is ignoring biology, sociology and plain old common sense.
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But I am a strong believer in continuous learning and becoming a better man.
That's the crux of it all for me, right there. Very well said.
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:11 PM   #38 (permalink)
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In my 54 years, college, working, etc. I have never seen the term alpha and beta being
used before or even spoken of until I found TAM. I'm in a happy marriage too.
Taken tons of leadership training classes thru work and these two words never came up.

But I am a strong believer in continuous learning and becoming a better man.
Everything isn't perfect but the use of these two words to help someone understand how
they may improve their relationship with their wife is helpful.

Lots of the terminology used on this site was pretty new to me, although some of the common behaviors described among different types of men wasn't necessarily new. But I grew up under a dad who believed that most other men were inherently inferior when it comes to keeping their relationship affair-proof. Also went to a college where the social life was pretty open, yet competitive, and noticed some common themes there.


Now that I've heard of some of the terminology, I couldn't help but jokingly notice an opportunity to classify you - maybe delta??

See, you said, "But I am a strong believer in continuous learning and becoming a better man."

An alpha would have said, "But I am a strong believer in continuous learning and becoming a better man THAN OTHERS."

Just kidding!!! Hope the joke wasn't so obtuse that it makes no sense.
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I don't think anyone needs to eat, drink, and sleep this theory-craft all of the time.

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Anyone that does NOT think there are inherent social, character, and behavioral constructs that influence how a male is perceived as a potential sex partner, or life partner by females (virtually irregardless of higher animal species) is ignoring biology, sociology and plain old common sense.
Common sense is over rated.
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Common sense is over rated.
As my father says, common sense is not nearly as common as people think.
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Common sense is over rated.
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Only this website do men define themselves. In real world they just go about going about.
Such knowledge about men....

The reality is quite the opposite. There is not a decent man anywhere who has not noticed that the 'Biff Tannens' of the world are never lonely and wondered why.

Adaptations of game theory are not perfect as explanations, but they do cover a fair amount of the data.
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Only this website do men define themselves. In real world they just go about going about.
I do like this website but I had no idea it was that progressive. So trend setting. So Avante Garde!!

Only this website. Wow. I think that is very special.

That this bastian of Marriage could influence the manosphere to such a degree. Inconceivable!!!!

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Such knowledge about men....

The reality is quite the opposite. There is not a decent man anywhere who has not noticed that the 'Biff Tannens' of the world are never lonely and wondered why.

Adaptations of game theory are not perfect as explanations, but they do cover a fair amount of the data.
I have seen plenty of 'Biff Tannens' propping up bars talking about how tough they used to be.

For anyone interested the theory of Evolutionarily Stable Strategy makes interesting reading.
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