Did you even read what you posted? One of them basically says; we did a Google search and couldn't find a study that shows what we didn't want to find. Another one says none of the results measured results beyond 3 months, and it doesn't give any information about how many men, how much soy they ingested or any other of these studies' criteria.
Finally the last one says they basically chose to ignore the studies that don't show what they want them to for various reasons, but don;t tell you anything about the studies that tell what they want them to.
"CONCLUSION(S):The intervention data indicate that isoflavones do not exert feminizing effects on men at intake levels equal to and even considerably higher than are typical for Asian males."
"CONCLUSION(S):The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men."
"Myth: Soy lowers testosterone levels.
Scientific Fact: Good research proves that soy protein will not affect your testosterone levels."
"Myth: Soy protein is a low-quality protein compared to dairy or egg protein. Now we also know that soy is very effective for promoting muscle growth. One study presented at a 2006 Experimental Biology meeting reported that bodybuilders taking a soy protein shake twice a day for 12 weeks gained an equivalent amount of muscle mass as those taking a whey protein shake twice a day. A 2004 Ohio State University study found that trained men consuming 33 g of soy or whey protein from a protein bar for nine weeks significantly and similarly increased their muscle mass.
Scientific Fact: Soy protein boosts muscle growth as effectively as whey protein does."
"Myth: Soy can’t offer the muscle-building benefits that whey can.
Scientific Fact: Soy protein boosts NO levels and recovery, and thus muscle growth."
You kinda missed the point. If I go out and ask three 6 year olds and call it a study, but don't tell you how the study was actually conducted, then said:
CONCLUSION: Anyone named mark is stupid!
It doesn't really make it so, particularly if what I was trying to prove is that anyone named mark is stupid.
"Why don’t I hunt? I could allude to the fruits of exhaustive research into the ecological and biological consequences of hunting, and to collective insights of biologists, ecologists, and naturalists who challenge the prevailing wildlife-management dogma. Yet, fundamentally, the answer can be expressed in simple moral terms: Hunting is wrong, and should be acknowledged to be so not only by those who espouse the strict precepts of the animal-rights credo, but by those who hold a common sense of decency, respect, and justice. When we have exposed the specious reasoning of the hunters’ apologists and stripped their sport of its counterfeit legitimacy, the naked brutality of hunting defines itself: killing for the fun of it. "–Steve Ruggeri
Yeah, hate to tell you this but long before any of the tree hugging wackadoodles took up the cause of saving the environment, guess who was doing it? Hunters. Even the left-leaning National Geographic has recognized that hunters spend more than nearly anyone on ecological efforts.
And just because some nutjob (and yeah, Steve Ruggeri is a nutjob) says an activity is wrong, because he doesn't understand it or chooses to ignore its foundation, doesn't make it so.
If someone says, it's wrong that the sky is blue it doesn't make it so.
Well this has been fun. But we're kinda just a little off topic here so let's just agree to disagree and go away friends huh?
Yeah, hate to tell you this but long before any of the tree hugging wackadoodles took up the cause of saving the environment, guess who was doing it? Hunters. Even the left-leaning National Geographic has recognized that hunters spend more than nearly anyone on ecological efforts.
And just because some nutjob (and yeah, Steve Ruggeri is a nutjob) says an activity is wrong, because he doesn't understand it or chooses to ignore its foundation, doesn't make it so.
If someone says, it's wrong that the sky is blue it doesn't make it so.
Well this has been fun. But we're kinda just a little off topic here so let's just agree to disagree and go away friends huh?
Ad Hominem logical fallacy- Attacking the individual instead of the argument.
who is the real "nut job" anyway- the person who spends his life protecting the helpless against death and misery or the one who delights in causing death and misery to other sentient beings for their own personal gratification? if you shoot a dog, it is considered animal cruelty and if you shoot a deer it is considered an acceptable hobby. this is the definition of speciesism and similar justification has been used for all other violent actions from genocide to human slavery to the Jewish Holocaust. the view of a violent action is quite different from the perspective of the victim as opposed to the one of the perpetrator.
“In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought.” ― Isaac Bashevis Singer
“The establishment of the common origin of all species logically involves a readjustment of altruistic morals, by enlarging the application of what has been called the Golden Rule from the area of mere mankind to that of the whole animal kingdom.” -Thomas Hardy
“A man can live and be healthy without killing animals for food; therefore, if he eats meat, he participates in taking animal life merely for the sake of his appetite. And to act so is immoral.” --Leo Tolstoy
"Myth: Soy lowers testosterone levels.
Scientific Fact: Good research proves that soy protein will not affect your testosterone levels."
"Myth: Soy protein is a low-quality protein compared to dairy or egg protein. Now we also know that soy is very effective for promoting muscle growth. One study presented at a 2006 Experimental Biology meeting reported that bodybuilders taking a soy protein shake twice a day for 12 weeks gained an equivalent amount of muscle mass as those taking a whey protein shake twice a day. A 2004 Ohio State University study found that trained men consuming 33 g of soy or whey protein from a protein bar for nine weeks significantly and similarly increased their muscle mass.
Scientific Fact: Soy protein boosts muscle growth as effectively as whey protein does."
"Myth: Soy can’t offer the muscle-building benefits that whey can.
Scientific Fact: Soy protein boosts NO levels and recovery, and thus muscle growth."
there is no such beast as good research! let me repeat that there is no such beast as good research.
all research is based on finding results and if your results don't produce answers you don't get any more research money.
and all researchers pick and choise what to put in their study and what to exclude.
I find that comon sense goes along way.
really who didn't know that smoking was bad you would have to be an idiot to think it wasn't harmfull.
eating all kinds of processed food and drinking pop and diet pop.come on everybody should know whats healthy and whats not by now.
I'll even go as far as to say lifting weights and building too much extra muscel is unhealthy in the long run . for optium health and longevety there needs to be a balance to much one way or the other and you won't maximize your time here on earth.
its nice to be strong with big muscels but eating more protein than you need makes your liver and kidneys work harder and extra muscel make your heart work harder. not to mention you can only keep it up for so long and then you very well could be stuck with too much extra weight as you age.
I went through the I want to lift a house mode for years. it was fun being so strong. but in my opinion too much of anything is bad.
animals are not people.
see theres this thing call a food chain and we are at the top. which means we eat things below us.and for thousands of years people survived by eating animals. our bodies are designed for eating flesh and hunting.
Its cool that you decided to take a different aproach but pushing your very new idea about what we should eat ......
nevermind....... lets agree to disagree. its really not worth the effort.
actually, the consumption of animal products- including eggs, dairy and fish- not only contributes to horrific cruelty and suffering and environmental devastation it also is extremely unhealthy and unnecessary.
Man,
Stop worrying about all of that , just eat until you feel like puking.
DON'T EAT JUNK. EAT CLEAN CALORIES.
Veggie - Eat plenty [ especially raw.]
Fish - Eat plenty,especially Salmon and Tuna.
Meats - Eat plenty LEAN meats.
Eggs - Eat Plenty. Start with 1/2 doz per day,
eating eggs this much is not friendly to the heart. You could try some soy if you like, its protein content is high. Posted via Mobile Device
Eggs are awesome. Soy I absolutely avoid like the plague.
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It's a simple theory: exercise + protein - (bad) carbs = quality muscle.
Concentrate on eating good carbs such as sweet potatoes and brown rice and be sure to perform at least 45 minutes of cardio three times per week in addition to weight training.
If you're over 35, have your testosterone levels checked with a blood test at your doctor's office. Most likely, they will be in the lower percentile and he'll put you on a HRT program. Then you'll notice the muscle gains and fat loss even more so.
Oh, yeah - Vitamin "T" is better than Viagra. Enjoy...
The easiest, healthiest way to eat is like my ancestors ate. They walked around with a stick with a flint spearhead on it. If they could stab it, spear it, knock it out of a tree, or root it out of the ground with that stick, it was on the menu. If you need to process it, grind it, ferment it, etc, it shouldn't be on your menu. Wheat (basically a slow acting poison), sugar (ditto), soy (highly estrogenic), rice, barley, corn, etc are not really fit for human consumption. All must be heavily processed to be made palatable, except for corn. Load up on fruit, vegetables, fish, eggs, animals, raw milk, and birds. Eat like an Injun.
Just wanted to give an update on how things are going for me as the OP of this thread.
Its been about a month now since Ive started. I've been eating clean (for the most part), but my weight hasn't really changed since Day 1. I know I'm going to have to start eating more, even though my wife is already complaining my new "lifestyle" is getting expensive and difficult to keep up with (she does the shopping/cooking since I work alot more hours than she does).
I've also noticed minimal strength gains, but I suspect I'm just not pushing myself enough since I've always had the bad habit of not going to TMF on every set. Not saying I don't, but just not consistently, I definitely feel like I don't experience the type of soreness I associate with a great workout.
Probably need to sleep better too.
That's the bad news. Good news is though I've already had some comments on my physique is looking bigger (extended family who hasn't seen me in awhile), my wife as also said I looked more "toned" even though that's not exactly what I'm going for.
Again, I'm just starting off and have never really done anything like this, especially so much knowledge and motivation behind it. Its a learning experience from everyone I've read/heard from, and I have to adjust until I see results.
In short, I've noticed positive changes to my physique, but in more objective measurables, I've noticed little to no change.
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