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Old 06-14-2012, 12:07 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Make sure you work your muscles in groups...and do the big muscles first and then the little muscles after they're warmed up from doing the big muscles. For instance NEVER touch your shoulders unless you have done back and biceps/triceps first.
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Quite simply you build muscle by stressing it through use and then feeding it enough to build it. Providing enough protein is essential for building new muscle. There is an optimum window of 20-30 minutes after muscle use where the absorption of protein to build and replace muscle is most effective.

What is not essential is weight training. One can build muscle through any sort of activity that stresses muscle. Homemaker is completely correct in that body weight exercises are an effective way of building muscle. The real question is what do you want to do with your muscle? If all you want is to collect muscle bulk then weight lifting is probably the way to go. If you need muscle to perform specific activities like dance, gymnastics or climbing then you need to manage your exercises to avoid over building bulk by focusing on exercises that stress fast twitch and slow twitch muscle fibers in the appropriate ratio for you activity.

There is nothing wrong with weight training but it is not the only way.
When I was younger I was an EMT and in the military. Instead of weighing 103 I weighed 120 and I had a lot more bulk in my legs. I needed to be able to carry a 60 pound pack or at least half of a person on a litter or in a real emergency someone across my back. Legs were thus important. I also trained in extreme heat, running in the Phoenix suburbs on a track in the middle of the day in the summer, that's when your sweat evaporates and don't wipe your face because you'll scratch yourself with the salt crystals. When my kids were younger I used to carry them too in a Burley trailer with their friends, so 70-80 pounds going biking, or up to 40/50 pounds with equipment in a ski pulk cross country skiing or my favorite orienteering running through the woods off-trail with a 30 pound kid in a backpack plus water and emergency gear (plus diapers, etc.)

I do think the best way to train is with a goal in mind. You never know when you want to have some fun by running up a mountain and then free-climbing at high speed the open face rock summit and doing some pushups at the top just because you are getting along in years and enjoying it while you still can!

I went kayaking last Sunday and was in some little bit of whitewater, only Class 1, but it was nice to have core strength and upper body/arm strength otherwise it would have been tiring, instead of fun.
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:18 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I do think the best way to train is with a goal in mind. You never know when you want to have some fun by running up a mountain and then free-climbing at high speed the open face rock summit and doing some pushups at the top just because you are getting along in years and enjoying it while you still can!

I went kayaking last Sunday and was in some little bit of whitewater, only Class 1, but it was nice to have core strength and upper body/arm strength otherwise it would have been tiring, instead of fun.
Yes, the best way to train is to acheive a specific goal. This helps the commitment to the training as well. I am getting along in years and it effects my training only in that my recovery time is getting longer. If I don't supplement with protien right after exercise (with an energy bar) my muscles take extra long to recover.

But I am able to keep up with people half my age who are fit.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:32 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Here are the links I mentioned
The Ultimate Brute-Force Real World He-Man Power Program
Have it all!

The first one I did for about 5 weeks and people thought I was on roids (even though I was eating low carb at the time)
,I just could not keep liftng at that intensity trust me though its a do or die attitude thats needed and thats what sparks the hormones that are needed for muscle growth
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:51 PM   #35 (permalink)
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are you serious?!?!? you don't actually believe that do you?






great advice as always from Entropy.

one other point to make is that you really want to just pick a plan and carry it out.
bouncing from method to method (just because so-and-so said it worked for him) without allowing your body to realize the benifit of each method will cause delays in progress.
Yes, this is so critical. It's about hard work over time. Make it a life style. One of the toughest lessons to learn.
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:05 PM   #36 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=stritle;825256]are you serious?!?!? you don't actually believe that do you?
Without getting into a pissing match yes I do believe this. If your body is saying "I'm full" why on earth would you keep force feeding it just to achieve certain calorie count? I get needing to eat a certain amount of calories daily so that all systems are functioning correctly. But saying to HAVE to have 3500 cals for example no more no less no matter what or you won't achieve your goals is false. If you consumed lunch at 12:00 and was scheduled to eat again at 3:00 but you were still satified from lunch where put more food in you gut just cuz it's 3 o'clock? We need to listen to our bodies more and not do things cuz "we have to". To each his own but if I'm not hungry that means my body is still dealing with the meal I just ate. Before the information age our ancestors and what not didn't count any cals and I don’t think obesity was an issue it is today. They were way more fit than we are today and ate when hungry and not cuz "it was time". Read "Primal Blueprint" and "Paleo Solution" and/or check out marksdailyapple dot com. I don't benefit from any of these sources I am just a regular guy who committed to this way of living and have benefited tremendously from it.
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:29 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I agree caveman The workouts I mentioned above were all when I was low carb I believe its the quality of the food,the intensity and the right exercises are the key. On Bryce Lanes old board there was a guy on there that is just about the strongest guy I know and he mentioned how he could still.lift heavy and intense on very little food. I'm talking about hoisting 250lb sandbags and nemerous handstand push ups .
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i'd agree that assigning an arbitrary number of calories is useless, but if the 3500 was selected due to a maintenance level of calories being slightly below that mark, and the goal is building muscle you should choke down the food.
If the goal is adding NEW muscle, 4000+ daily cals has to be the goal at a minimum. Think GOMAD.
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What would an 8k clean daily diet look like
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What would an 8k clean daily diet look like
A lotta brown rice, oatmeal and whole wheat pasta I'd guess.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:10 AM   #41 (permalink)
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stritle, why would you pay for this? All you need to do is a little math. I didn't get the feeling they were calling you out. Just sounded like they were stating it's hard to get to 8k calories w/o quite a bit of sugar/fat. Which it is, but not impossible.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:40 AM   #42 (permalink)
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i was making a good run at competition and couldn't afford to experiment. paying a little for a higher level of experience wasn't a big deal at the time. i was shown lots of little tricks and tweaks along the way that made a big difference.
Ah, gotcha.
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No not calling you out just interested I could not handle pasta and brown in huge amountsrice , I was thinking more of oils and nut butter . Yeah please pm the links , also competitve at bb? Or something else
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If the goal is adding NEW muscle, 4000+ daily cals has to be the goal at a minimum. Think GOMAD.
GOMAD is good stuff.
But I couldn't drink so much milk! I used to drink 2 litres / Day and I would still feel bloated.But I know others who did it and it worked for them.
Where I live in the Caribbean,we eat a lot of starchy foods called ground provisions or what you guys call yam. We have lots of different varieties . I used them a lot and it worked for me. Rolled Oats and Brown rice [ The one with the husk on.]
Olive Oil also.
I don't use much pasta. Makes me feel stuffed.
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Where I live in the Caribbean,we eat a lot of starchy foods called ground provisions or what you guys call yam.
How did it take so long for sweet potatoes to get mentioned. They're a very healthy, nutritious and high-calorie food.
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