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01-02-2009 10:55 PM
Wyst
Re: Too young to wonder this.

just as well the kid never came back!!!lol

Draconis, if the kid was still around, I would probably have raised the matter of thread hijacking in the approprate channels. A bunch of people have already had a field day here - however, perhaps it is still worth bearing in mind how the thread as a whole may look to a new-comer.

If I had seen this thread first, before looking at other things, before being logged in and able to see who's been on when, I might not have posted here at all! It's food for thought.

so - new hijack - debate whether threads like this should be kept or whether they should be moved.....What do other people think?
01-02-2009 05:49 PM
draconis
Re: Too young to wonder this.

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Originally Posted by Wyst View Post
This thread is the worst case of topic hijacking I have ever seen, and moderators involved in the hijacking too! And the thread of vulnerable teenager who is looking for adult input too!!

How in heaven's name is an argument over religion and the existence of God supposed to help one young person trying to get his head around the sweet agony fo young love?

I personally recommend this thread gets locked and chucked away as it does the whole forum a disservice - a fine example of how NOT to do things here!

If you felt that way instead of hijacking the thread yet again you could have reported it instead. The topic was short lived as the poster was a one time poster and hasn't been seen since may. Thw hijacks happened months after he stopped viewing. If you feel my comments or any are not fitting to the forum please report them. Even with many good moderators here and an active admin there are still 100-200 posts a day and some things get away from everyone. You will also notice that one of the hijackers was banned, so please don't think the moderators were looking the other way. Tangins happen in forums all the time and moderator walk a tight rope of what to allow and what to censor.

draconis
01-02-2009 05:19 PM
Wyst
Re: Too young to wonder this.

This thread is the worst case of topic hijacking I have ever seen, and moderators involved in the hijacking too! And the thread of vulnerable teenager who is looking for adult input too!!

How in heaven's name is an argument over religion and the existence of God supposed to help one young person trying to get his head around the sweet agony fo young love?

I personally recommend this thread gets locked and chucked away as it does the whole forum a disservice - a fine example of how NOT to do things here!
12-31-2008 09:42 AM
ScreamingInSilence
Re: Too young to wonder this.

It's better to have love and lost than to never have loved at all.
10-16-2008 01:13 AM
voivod
Re: Too young to wonder this.

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Originally Posted by draconis View Post
"Winners are losers that got up to give it one more try." ~ Tommy SHaw
amen...get up...try again...then try once more...
09-18-2008 08:14 PM
Sweet love
Re: Too young to wonder this.

Lets go to ours now n-o-w ! ! !
09-17-2008 05:42 PM
Sweet love
Re: Too young to wonder this.

I htink that it doesnt mater if you live with the one you love 3 years or 50 years and as for iof she dies well what if she lives oyu or oyu live her huh? what does it change?
What count the most is the time spend together beign hapy an din love.
you coudl also say the same for anything you do in life.
Why eat sicne it goes down the toilet and why cultivate the soil when you have to do it all over again the next year?
and soemtiems its all waisted cause of the bad weather..
and what about cars they alos die on you and oyu never see them again.. and houses..
and dogs and cats.
doesnt mean that you have to drop living..
thats the eternal problem of life and death.. why live if we are going to die?
cause we aint dead yet, thats why..
if all were thinking like oyu then no mum will give birth to chldren cause what if they die?
so all will ahve been for nothing?
i dont think os, not if they were loved and cared for.
you ahve to keep all the god and therefor everyday do good things for you and for other too. It makes oyu life more meaningfull when you have love in it.
Anythign thats good is done through one form or another of love.
But wahts hard is long distance relationship.
not what if after 50 years together.
anyway, women live longer so why worry? LOL!
09-17-2008 05:37 PM
Honey
Re: Too young to wonder this.

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Originally Posted by bluebutterfly0808 View Post
soccerman,

some of your views totally hit home with me! i was also raised roman catholic (never missed church - might go to hell kind of thinking). it's just how my dad grew up. he accepted it but as i got married & had my own children, i am having such a hard time with it! we have 4 children. our oldest had cancer & is fine now. everyone tells me that he is a miracle. i have such a hard time agreeing. i just can't believe that we got a miracle while so many other children we met over the years at the oncologist lose their battle. sometimes illnes brings people closer to their religion but not for me. it has totally made me question everything! i still believe in god & speak to my god all day long in my thoughts! i am not sure exactly how i feel about religion. i want to go to church to be more spiritual but i always end up leaving in such a bad frame of mind after the priest talks! i know that i believe in being a good person, helping others, understanding consequences to actions, being moral, etc. what is the answer?? will we ever figure it out?
God saved your child, you should be so thankful that it brought you closer to him. I mean knowing he was there for you. Is it that you blame God for letting cancer hit your child? We had cancer hit my family too, but he showed me that he was there for me, and if I didn't believe in him, I would have the day I prayed so hard. I know how some people that is in Church are, you think why do they even go, but you are not there for them. You are there for YOU, YOUR FAMILY, and God.
09-12-2008 09:20 AM
bluebutterfly0808
Re: Too young to wonder this.

soccerman,

some of your views totally hit home with me! i was also raised roman catholic (never missed church - might go to hell kind of thinking). it's just how my dad grew up. he accepted it but as i got married & had my own children, i am having such a hard time with it! we have 4 children. our oldest had cancer & is fine now. everyone tells me that he is a miracle. i have such a hard time agreeing. i just can't believe that we got a miracle while so many other children we met over the years at the oncologist lose their battle. sometimes illnes brings people closer to their religion but not for me. it has totally made me question everything! i still believe in god & speak to my god all day long in my thoughts! i am not sure exactly how i feel about religion. i want to go to church to be more spiritual but i always end up leaving in such a bad frame of mind after the priest talks! i know that i believe in being a good person, helping others, understanding consequences to actions, being moral, etc. what is the answer?? will we ever figure it out?
09-03-2008 08:34 AM
GAsoccerman
Re: Too young to wonder this.

I've actually ahd the opposite, I've seen women struggling in a parking lot with something heavy, I have offered to help them, 80% of them will say no, thinking, I am trying to steal from them, some sort of scam, or hitting on them. When really I am just being nice. the other 20% usually say yes because my kids are with me, I guess they feel safer that way. LOL
09-02-2008 05:45 PM
draconis
Re: Too young to wonder this.

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Originally Posted by GAsoccerman View Post
as I said Drac, there are good people and bad people, some will help there Neighbors, others won't. Has nothing to do with religion, but how you were raised as a person.

That is true. I most have had good upbringing where that is conserned but not enough people today are raising their kids like that.

draconis
09-02-2008 02:06 PM
GAsoccerman
Re: Too young to wonder this.

as I said Drac, there are good people and bad people, some will help there Neighbors, others won't. Has nothing to do with religion, but how you were raised as a person.
09-02-2008 02:02 PM
draconis
Re: Too young to wonder this.

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Originally Posted by GAsoccerman View Post
Not a problem darling, n ot a problem at all.

I've also noticed on our street, I and another (northerner) are the least "religious" people on our street, we party have a good time and laugh, all good stuff.

When a tornado went down our street and several trees were knocked down, and other damage was caused (nothing earth shattering) It was Him and I that leant everyone a hand cleaning up and and getting things back to normal. My super church going friends stayed inside their houses, they will go work on something if their Church tells them to, but when their old neighbor across the street needs a hand...they are no where to be found.
Then that is a sad sate where people will not help one another.

draconis
09-02-2008 12:48 PM
GAsoccerman
Re: Too young to wonder this.

Not a problem darling, n ot a problem at all.

I've also noticed on our street, I and another (northerner) are the least "religious" people on our street, we party have a good time and laugh, all good stuff.

When a tornado went down our street and several trees were knocked down, and other damage was caused (nothing earth shattering) It was Him and I that leant everyone a hand cleaning up and and getting things back to normal. My super church going friends stayed inside their houses, they will go work on something if their Church tells them to, but when their old neighbor across the street needs a hand...they are no where to be found.
09-02-2008 08:53 AM
GAsoccerman
Re: Too young to wonder this.

Mommy, sorry if I sounded like I was getting in a argument, I was just stating where I come from.

I've always maintained, Religion is very good for some people, just not everyone, some use it for good, some use it for bad.

To answer your question, Where do we go when we die? Simply we go back into the earth and become part of it again.

Much like sleeping, you don't remember all 8 hours of sleeping, your brain goes to "sleep mode" When we die, we are simply turned off, and thats it.

Many people have a hard time understanding, that when we die, it's all over. I won't be an angel floating above watching my children grow, I will be gone. So hopefully I am raising them to be self sufficient and independent.

Drac, it's not that I don't believe in the bible, I just think it's a book written by man, same for the Quran.....it's just a book.
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