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I had cheese toast.
Oh man, that sounds delicious! (I can picture little Miss Blossom nibbling on her gooey concoction ) Loads of ingredients in that one small meal -- it could have been anything that caused the flareup. Milk or flavorings in the cheese, and bread is loaded with things including yeast, wheat or potato starch, soybean oil or soy flour, oats and oat hulls, egg whites, etc. Too many things to sort out!

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Yea, I had antibody tests done that had narrowed me to Sjogrens or Lupus.
Sorry to hear this. But knowledge is power. Back to the cave (as in caveman food), right?

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Yep! Stocking up tonight Sister... No grass growing under these feet.

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Yep! Stocking up tonight Sister... No grass growing under these feet.
Yep! Time to get your "cave girl" on...


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LOL! I love it....

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I have an autoimmune disease and honestly the only diet that worked long term was a Whole Food Plant Based No Oil Diet. Meat and Dairy increase inflammation and antibodies in your body. The only way to reduce inflammation is to take it out of your diet. At first, it was difficult but I can say it has been an amazing turn around. I was deathly ill and the diet gave me my life back.

My endocrinologist is thrilled. Nothing else worked but this has been amazing.
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Did fish leave you with inflammation? I'm hearing a Lupie that has done extremely well on wild caught fish and grass fed meat.

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I have an autoimmune disease and honestly the only diet that worked long term was a Whole Food Plant Based No Oil Diet. Meat and Dairy increase inflammation and antibodies in your body. The only way to reduce inflammation is to take it out of your diet.
I'm really happy that your plant-based diet has worked for you. Great that you're feeling much better!

But I have to take issue with part of your statement. While I agree that dairy can be inflammatory and really isn't a necessary part of the human diet, I simply don't believe that removing all meat is necessary.

We evolved through millions of years of eating meat... after all, we are omnivores. Modern red meat is inflammatory because cows are fed grains (barely edible corn!) and cows simply cannot digest corn. Not to mention the hormones and antibiotics. Same for pigs and chickens. All of that crap gets passed along to us through commercial farming practices. However, our bodies are perfectly designed to digest grass fed meat and wild caught fish.

Just my 2 cents. But I am glad that you are feeling better .

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my W has rosacea pretty bad. How confident are you guys that this could be an A/I thing? I surfed a bit on it yesterday and could not really find much. She spends a lot of time and money on it, so anything 'I can do' to help, would be appreciated. To date, she pretty has had the mite treatments (failed miserably) and a bunch of topical stuff that appears to be nominally effective (though big $), though more of symptom treatment than root cause treatment. Quitting coffee seems to have helped some as well. Thanks!

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Anything is possible. I hate when people say one diet is better than another. Depending on who you are, what problems you have and what you want to accomplish all diets are different. Obviously some are **** (weight watchers for example) but most are just fine.

I'd talking to someone who specialized in nutrition science. When dealing with specifics there are a lot of variables to take into consideration.

The one rule that applies to every single diet that is worth the paper it's printed on is to never eat anything with sugar added to it during processes. Sugar is ok (when used correctly and in the correct moderation), foods with added sugar are NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER good. Like ever.

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my W has rosacea pretty bad. How confident are you guys that this could be an A/I thing? I surfed a bit on it yesterday and could not really find much. She spends a lot of time and money on it, so anything 'I can do' to help, would be appreciated. To date, she pretty has had the mite treatments (failed miserably) and a bunch of topical stuff that appears to be nominally effective (though big $), though more of symptom treatment than root cause treatment. Quitting coffee seems to have helped some as well. Thanks!
From what I've seen I think it is definitely AI

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From what I've seen I think it is definitely AI
Thanks BL, do you have any good sources? My W is also the worlds biggest reader (or damn close, LOL). I keep this site private from her, for a myriad of reasons.
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Anything is possible. I hate when people say one diet is better than another. Depending on who you are, what problems you have and what you want to accomplish all diets are different.
Agree! We all have different ancestries, different genes, different food intolerances. Each person must tweak their diet to fit their circumstances.

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The one rule that applies to every single diet that is worth the paper it's printed on is to never eat anything with sugar added to it during processes. Sugar is ok (when used correctly and in the correct moderation), foods with added sugar are NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER good. Like ever.
Ever??? jk,

I completely agree!!! And this one rule ALONE eliminates about 99% of all processed junk! There are well-researched articles about sugar "caramelizing" the second it hits our bloodstream and causing a cascade of bad effects. Think about it... our bodies are 98.6 degrees and we all know what happens when we heat sugar on the stove. It turns into a gooey, gloppy, sludgy mess. Same thing in our bodies. Better known as the Maillard Reaction.

Here's some light reading... NIH article - The Maillard reaction in the human body

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Thanks BL, do you have any good sources? My W is also the worlds biggest reader (or damn close, LOL). I keep this site private from her, for a myriad of reasons.
If you google Rosacea autoimmune a LOT comes up that is researched based and if I am not mistaken, I believe I saw it mentioned in my GAPS book, which was a book written about healing the gut and its impact on autism, lupus, fibro, etc.

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