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post #106 of 183 (permalink) Old 01-21-2016, 01:54 PM
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I have to disagree with this.... Maybe it works for you, but my experience is that Low Carb is the way to go, veggies and meat...
The way to go for what?

Watch the documentary. Examine the science behind it. Population studies. Come to your own conclusions.

If you have evidence demonstrating that animal-protein centric, low carb diets promote health and extend life expectancy I'd love to see it.


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The way to go for what?

Watch the documentary. Examine the science behind it. Population studies. Come to your own conclusions.

If you have evidence demonstrating that animal-protein centric, low carb diets promote health and extend life expectancy I'd love to see it.
I tend to agree.... it seems that all calorie dense foods are an issue on some level, except Nightshades are their own issue. At least that's what I feel when I eat.

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I tend to agree.... it seems that all calorie dense foods are an issue on some level, except Nightshades are their own issue. At least that's what I feel when I eat.
Couldn't agree more!! Bravo, @Blossom Leigh!!

For millennia, folks were deadly afraid of the nightshade family, including the presumed DEADLY TOMATO!!

Yes. Steered clear, foe and friend alike... and then... somebody finally ATE IT. Took the plunge. Tried it. They didn't die, so they decided it wasn't deadly after all. (But who knew that it was deadly to some... slowly killing us with its deadly nightshade properties???)

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@Blossom Leigh, another part of the self-diagnosis issue for me is putting a label on a group of symptoms and having that condition define me. It is one reason why I have not been back to a doctor. I'm pretty sure I have Lupus, but why does it matter? I know my body well enough to recognize when I'm having a flare up. The key goal for me is to keep inflammation down because I know it is doing damage when things are out of control. What has worked for me is diet and supplements, exercise, rest when I need it, a good night's sleep, and keeping stress to a minimum.

A year ago, I was experiencing extreme fatigue (as in, I could barely get out of bed - all day), muscle fatigue, fasciculation (muscle twitching), difficulty swallowing, night sweats, hair loss (yikes!), blurry vision, malar rash, light sensitivity, cold sensitivity (purple hands and feet), numbness in my left arm and leg, feeling of electric shock on my skin, and a few other symptoms.

My blood work revealed a positive ANA and Sjogren's antibodies. Multiple tests later, including two brain scans and an EMG, and MS was ruled out. I was relieved to learn that, but all I could see in my future was more tests and dangerous medications my rheumatologist wanted me to take and that scared the heck out of me.

I'm fortunate that alternative methods have worked for me thus far. I still have my days, but my hair is growing back thicker than ever, my face cleared up, and I have the strength and stamina to walk four miles a day again. Only occasionally do I have the muscle twitches and malar rash on my face, and almost always after a time of stress. Stress management is huge.

I want to also point out that my diet at the time was lacking in nutrients and calories. Making an effort to get wholesome and healing food in my body has made the biggest difference, in my opinion.
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@Blossom Leigh, another part of the self-diagnosis issue for me is putting a label on a group of symptoms and having that condition define me. It is one reason why I have not been back to a doctor. I'm pretty sure I have Lupus, but why does it matter? I know my body well enough to recognize when I'm having a flare up. The key goal for me is to keep inflammation down because I know it is doing damage when things are out of control. What has worked for me is diet and supplements, exercise, rest when I need it, a good night's sleep, and keeping stress to a minimum.

A year ago, I was experiencing extreme fatigue (as in, I could barely get out of bed - all day), muscle fatigue, fasciculation (muscle twitching), difficulty swallowing, night sweats, hair loss (yikes!), blurry vision, malar rash, light sensitivity, cold sensitivity (purple hands and feet), numbness in my left arm and leg, feeling of electric shock on my skin, and a few other symptoms.

My blood work revealed a positive ANA and Sjogren's antibodies. Multiple tests later, including two brain scans and an EMG, and MS was ruled out. I was relieved to learn that, but all I could see in my future was more tests and dangerous medications my rheumatologist wanted me to take and that scared the heck out of me.

I'm fortunate that alternative methods have worked for me thus far. I still have my days, but my hair is growing back thicker than ever, my face cleared up, and I have the strength and stamina to walk four miles a day again. Only occasionally do I have the muscle twitches and malar rash on my face, and almost always after a time of stress. Stress management is huge.

I want to also point out that my diet at the time was lacking in nutrients and calories. Making an effort to get wholesome and healing food in my body has made the biggest difference, in my opinion.
Your thinking and my thinking on this are VERY similar. I tend to go to the docs to get a diagnosis in the event I "have" to have a prescription, but beyond that... I prefer to self manage. So far I have the same ANA profile you saw, the marlar rash and almost every single other thing you mentioned except for purple hands and feet, and less severity of the rest of it. One thing that has shown up is facial twitching or spasms of my lower lip and around my eyes. Definitely the fatigue, wide spread body pain, flu like ache, headaches, etc... its not pretty.

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@Blossom Leigh, another part of the self-diagnosis issue for me is putting a label on a group of symptoms and having that condition define me. It is one reason why I have not been back to a doctor. I'm pretty sure I have Lupus, but why does it matter? I know my body well enough to recognize when I'm having a flare up.
Exactly, Zanne!! Why does it matter?? Why keep feeding the Western Medicine, insurance scam, "definition" of a chronic condition?

OH, HELL NO!!

YOU are your body's best advocate (and your brain, and your mental wellness, and your OWN final decision). Scr*w the docs and their "explanations'... I was married to a Western-trained doc from one of the finest medical schools in the U.S. It doesn't add up. Even HE admitted it doesn't add up when faced with his own health challenges!!

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The key goal for me is to keep inflammation down because I know it is doing damage when things are out of control. What has worked for me is diet and supplements, exercise, rest when I need it, a good night's sleep, and keeping stress to a minimum.
Yes!! YOU know your body, your "normal", your homeostasis FAR BETTER than any doc who gives you a seven-minute consultation (or less).

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The way to go for what?

Watch the documentary. Examine the science behind it. Population studies. Come to your own conclusions.

If you have evidence demonstrating that animal-protein centric, low carb diets promote health and extend life expectancy I'd love to see it.
All of the obesity studies currently show that carbs and sugar level in the blood are the what cause heart attacks and all that. More important as what we have been told for eons about fat. Look it up if you want.
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Exactly, Zanne!! Why does it matter?? Why keep feeding the Western Medicine, insurance scam, "definition" of a chronic condition?

OH, HELL NO!!

YOU are your body's best advocate (and your brain, and your mental wellness, and your OWN final decision). Scr*w the docs and their "explanations'... I was married to a Western-trained doc from one of the finest medical schools in the U.S. It doesn't add up. Even HE admitted it doesn't add up when faced with his own health challenges!!



Yes!! YOU know your body, your "normal", your homeostasis FAR BETTER than any doc who gives you a seven-minute consultation (or less).
WHEW!! Preach it Sister.... LOL!! love it!

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Who did you go to?


So here is the next question. How do you do your Paleo on the road traveling? And social situations?


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All of the obesity studies currently show that carbs and sugar level in the blood are the what cause heart attacks and all that. More important as what we have been told for eons about fat. Look it up if you want.
Sugar is absolute poison.

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Sugar is absolute poison.

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All of the obesity studies currently show that carbs and sugar level in the blood are the what cause heart attacks and all that. More important as what we have been told for eons about fat. Look it up if you want.
Nobody is advocating eating processed carbs and sugars.

Whole food/plant based diets have a very low glycemic index.

My comment was about animal-protein centric meals, and how they aren't healthy.

Populations that consume the most animal protein have the highest incidences of heart disease, cancer, and degenerative conditions. They also have the shortest life spans. It's well documented.

If you want to be healthy, and I mean really healthy, plant-based whole food diets are the way to go. (I don't get my definition of "healthy" from Muscle and Fitness or Men's Health)

Funny thing is, real paleo diets were primarily whole food/plant based. If an animal was killed, they ate the organs and glands first. The skeletal meat was eaten last, or given to the dogs. Modern day primitive cultures do the same.

Personally, I still like to have a little animal meat or fish each day (some days I don't though). I figure what's the point of living if you can't enjoy a little However, I am a perfectly healthy 46 year old man. 6'0" 188 lbs of lean. If I had a health issue, like some of the posters in this thread, I'd go strict on the diet.

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The one dairy product I'm keeping for now that is helping my digestion is full fat grass fed sour cream. Without it I'm not fully digesting the veggies.

This morning I had a little of it with strawberries, bananas and blueberries. Tasted like cheese cake. Yum!!

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Today is day 1. This weekend had too much going on to concentrate on myself. Yesterday, I cleaned out my pantry to see what I have. Boy, I did not realized I was collecting grains from the world over. Yikes.

I am going to cook a few things today for the next couple of days. I got the books you guys recommended. I also, picked up the Paleo Cleanse by Camilla Carboni. I like this to start off. It's pretty clean cut and tells you what to eat. giving you a few options to choose from.

I think this will work well for me. I need to be told what to eat, so I don't have to guess or make choices. Until, I get into the mindset and habit of cooking and thinking about food this way. This way I can cook a set of food and eat that everyday. I am the kind of person who can eat the same thing everyday and it does not bother me. I guess that comes from eating limit things in the pass.

Tonight, it's chicken breast, kale and spaghetti squash for dinner. I wonder how my husband and son will react. Maybe, I will make some pasta for them.
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