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post #121 of 183 (permalink) Old 01-26-2016, 08:24 AM
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I'm finding my son likes butternut squash just roasted in sea salt... no oil. FYI

I liked it better too.


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Nobody is advocating eating processed carbs and sugars.

Whole food/plant based diets have a very low glycemic index.

My comment was about animal-protein centric meals, and how they aren't healthy.

Populations that consume the most animal protein have the highest incidences of heart disease, cancer, and degenerative conditions. They also have the shortest life spans. It's well documented.

If you want to be healthy, and I mean really healthy, plant-based whole food diets are the way to go. (I don't get my definition of "healthy" from Muscle and Fitness or Men's Health)

Funny thing is, real paleo diets were primarily whole food/plant based. If an animal was killed, they ate the organs and glands first. The skeletal meat was eaten last, or given to the dogs. Modern day primitive cultures do the same.

Personally, I still like to have a little animal meat or fish each day (some days I don't though). I figure what's the point of living if you can't enjoy a little However, I am a perfectly healthy 46 year old man. 6'0" 188 lbs of lean. If I had a health issue, like some of the posters in this thread, I'd go strict on the diet.
If you go to the USDA food pyramid, it suggests getting way too much of your caloric intake from carbs.

I disagree wrt the extent that you wish to eliminate natural fats and proteins from the diet. If you really drop carbs to near zero (or even 10 or 20% of your calories), you need to make that up with other energy sources. If you really need to lose weight, Atkins or other very low carb diet is the way to go. It is not sustainable but to drop the pounds, there isn't really another method that works. Clearly research has shown that the type of calories you consume is as important as the amount.
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Happy--I suggested to my brother over a year ago that he give up nightshades to help combat his rheumatoid arthritis (he's only 45). He looked at me like I had gone crazy. Thanks for sharing your success with this. I'm going to suggest it to him again.

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If you go to the USDA food pyramid, it suggests getting way too much of your caloric intake from carbs.

I disagree wrt the extent that you wish to eliminate natural fats and proteins from the diet. If you really drop carbs to near zero (or even 10 or 20% of your calories), you need to make that up with other energy sources. If you really need to lose weight, Atkins or other very low carb diet is the way to go. It is not sustainable but to drop the pounds, there isn't really another method that works. Clearly research has shown that the type of calories you consume is as important as the amount.
There are plenty of proteins and fats in plant based products. Avocados? Potatoes? Yams? Nuts? Seeds? Whole grain rice? Legumes?

I think, Dave, that there is some sort of disconnect here. This isn't a weight loss thread. There are plenty of people with normal body weights that have all sorts of health issues.

Happy is fit as a fiddle. Yet, she is having health problems. It's not all about body weight.

The Paleo diet is a variation of the whole food/plant based diet. Paleo just includes animal protein.

They are both healthy diets compared to the normal Western fare.

There is a myth that removing animal protein from your diet will make one caloric and protein deficient. This, however, isn't the case if one eats a typical whole food/plant based diet abundant in whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds.

Anyways, I'm not going to hijack Happy's thread with this discussion any further. Those interested can research it for themselves.

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@ThreeStrikes I agree to disagree....
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Today is day 1. This weekend had too much going on to concentrate on myself. Yesterday, I cleaned out my pantry to see what I have. Boy, I did not realized I was collecting grains from the world over. Yikes.

I am going to cook a few things today for the next couple of days. I got the books you guys recommended. I also, picked up the Paleo Cleanse by Camilla Carboni. I like this to start off. It's pretty clean cut and tells you what to eat. giving you a few options to choose from.

I think this will work well for me. I need to be told what to eat, so I don't have to guess or make choices. Until, I get into the mindset and habit of cooking and thinking about food this way. This way I can cook a set of food and eat that everyday. I am the kind of person who can eat the same thing everyday and it does not bother me. I guess that comes from eating limit things in the pass.

Tonight, it's chicken breast, kale and spaghetti squash for dinner. I wonder how my husband and son will react. Maybe, I will make some pasta for them.
Not every paleo dish has to be a big production if you don't want it to be.

Last night for dinner I dumped pre-mixed salad greens in a bowl with a can of tuna and a glop of mayo.

Done in 2 minutes and it was delicious.

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Happy--I suggested to my brother over a year ago that he give up nightshades to help combat his rheumatoid arthritis (he's only 45). He looked at me like I had gone crazy. Thanks for sharing your success with this. I'm going to suggest it to him again.
Great idea Fozzy! And I'm glad you are finding this thread helpful . I have seen a dramatic improvement in all of my A/I issues... not a SINGLE flare-up since starting this elimination diet. I am just about at the end of my 30 days and getting ready to start adding some food groups back in.

I can tell you though, I will likely never eat a white potato (or anything containing potato starch or its many derivatives) again. I am almost certain they were the single biggest culprit for me. I'm hoping tomatoes will make it back onto the menu as I absolutely love them, but they will be one of the last things I try to add back in.

Here's a short article that discusses nightshades in particular. This article is what jumpstarted my decision to try this diet. Although she is discussing HS and psoriasis (not rheumatoid arthritis) I believe they are all related with some common root causes. You might find it helpful to share with your brother.

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Not every paleo dish has to be a big production if you don't want it to be.

Last night for dinner I dumped pre-mixed salad greens in a bowl with a can of tuna and a glop of mayo.

Done in 2 minutes and it was delicious.
I know, it just for now, I want to just follow a plan. I don't want to think too much. I figure a few things I will fix in bulk then, just eat when I have to, without much thought. I have a lot of food allergies so I have to be mindful of them or I will be down for hours.

I think a little preplanning for now will help me get into the habit of eating in this way. As I go along and new habits are form, I will have more room to be creative.

At this point is it the resetting of my thinking and changing of habits.
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When I first went paleo, I went whole hog. Like I was making my own mayonnaise and buying bulk pigskin from the butcher so I could render my own cooking fat.

Didn't take too long for me to realize that just isn't sustainable. At least for me.

I'm much more flexible now than I used to be. Storebought mayo--yeah it uses the wrong kind of oil. So sue me. Even with cutting some corners, you'll still end up eating so much better than the standard american diet that it's not going to matter that much.

I'm not ready to give up nightshades myself yet. I love my peppers too much.

I also incorporate rice and dairy from time to time because I'm hardcore and that's how I roll.

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When I first went paleo, I went whole hog. Like I was making my own mayonnaise and buying bulk pigskin from the butcher so I could render my own cooking fat. Didn't take too long for me to realize that just isn't sustainable. At least for me.
Agree. Very easy to unnecessarily go overboard (after all, cavemen never HEARD of friggin' mayo!!)

* On a separate note, who knew that fuzzy little cuddly bears would eat freshly slaughtered PIG skins??? Especially when you consider your own Co-Star???



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I'm much more flexible now than I used to be. Storebought mayo--yeah it uses the wrong kind of oil. So sue me. Even with cutting some corners, you'll still end up eating so much better than the standard american diet that it's not going to matter that much.


Even junk mayo is FAR better than Cheetos, Funyuns, Lance "orange" crackers w/PB (really? ORANGE??) and neon yellow Mac & Cheese (dare we name the offending company??).

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I'm not ready to give up nightshades myself yet. I love my peppers too much.
And the best news is, you may not have to! We all have different genes, different triggers, different immunity issues. There truly is NO "one size fits all".

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I also incorporate rice and dairy from time to time because I'm hardcore and that's how I roll.
Me too! I am SOOOOOOOO looking forward to some &*#%&@% MILK and eggs!!! And rice... (finally found an excuse to use that emoticon)




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Happy--I suggested to my brother over a year ago that he give up nightshades to help combat his rheumatoid arthritis (he's only 45). He looked at me like I had gone crazy. Thanks for sharing your success with this. I'm going to suggest it to him again.
Years ago my GF realized when she ate eggplant her joints would hurt like crazy, we were in our 30's then. Before that I never knew that nightshades can have such an impact on people. She gave up everything nightshades and it works for her. So maybe now your brother will listen to you.
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Interesting thing is happening yall. I'm losing my affinity for potatoes. I would have never thought that possible.

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Interesting thing is happening yall. I'm losing my affinity for potatoes. I would have never thought that possible.
No rice all week. Doing ok.

I am having issues with breakfast. I hate eating meat early morning. So, I am just having a banana with avocado. Going to get some apples and pears today. I drank my son's tea with milk, darn.

My husband likes the food. He wants to start taking lunch. So, from next week he will be taking lunch and snacks to work. Because at home he eats healthy and at work he eats crap. So, he wants to get his energy level up and get ready for the summer. He plays cricket every weekend, starting in late spring. So, he is with me on this.

My son not so much. He still likes his pasta and rice. But he needs the added calories. The spaghetti squash did not go over well with him. He said it looked like worms and he could not eat it. So, I made him some pasta. But he loves butternut squash, I am going to make a soup for dinner tonight with chicken. Then kale with apples. I miss tomatoes.

I really miss tomatoes. I never realize how much tomatoes I eat. Wow.
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My husband and I are going on the Paleo A/I diet. He has psoriasis that just flared up about a year ago. He is using salves and creams from the dermatologist now. His feet get a little better, then flare up again. The doctor also prescribed methotrexate, but my husband doesn't want to take it. It has so many side effects.

I've been reading on the internet about the A/I diet and I've also ordered the books that were recommended here, as well as one of just Paleo diet recipes. We are going to try the 30 day diet first. We are waiting to begin the diet until I receive my books and can come up with some meal plans and grocery lists. My husband is a meat and potatoes man, he will have a hard time giving up his potatoes. LOL. He will also have a hard time giving up his nightly Knob Creek and Coke. I must admit, I will miss my Grey Goose as well!! But, if it will get rid of my husband's psoraisis, then it will be well worth it.

Wish us luck!!
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This isn't strictly Paleo but for folks looking to adapt into this and already have a healthy exercise routine. This is basically 100% of my diet at this point

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