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post #31 of 48 (permalink) Old 01-22-2016, 01:09 AM Thread Starter
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What what I have done? ....I would have chosen a different cardio machine and moved on.

In your shoes though, I would have simply replied to the guy that I wouldn't be long then put my headphones back in. I'm not one for telling management and requesting signs. I just don't feel that a person is going to change their manners/behavior because of a sign. My take is you did what you thought was okay at the time. What bothers you about it?
Wanting to make sure that a rule is consistently applied.

For example, had I given up the machine after getting on it, then next week, I decide to take a bathroom break, return, find the machine occupied, I would expect to get the machine back, because I showed that courtesy just last week.

OR say for example, I leave the machine alone only to watch someone else take the machine. And when the bottle and towel owner comes back, he still doesn't get his machine back.

IF there were a rule, it would evenly applied. No one would feel as if they were always on the wrong side of it.......

IOW, I am willing to go either way, I just don't want to be caught out.

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Wanting to make sure that a rule is consistently applied.

For example, had I given up the machine after getting on it, then next week, I decide to take a bathroom break, return, find the machine occupied, I would expect to get the machine back, because I showed that courtesy just last week.

OR say for example, I leave the machine alone only to watch someone else take the machine. And when the bottle and towel owner comes back, he still doesn't get his machine back.

IF there were a rule, it would evenly applied. No one would feel as if they were always on the wrong side of it.......

IOW, I am willing to go either way, I just don't want to be caught out.
That's all well and good, but none of it mattered if what you do/expect isn't consistent with the policies at that particular gym. And if you gave the treadmill back to the guy, there's no guarantee that someone else would have been as generous with you next week. You can't expect to get the machine back the following week.

Without any written rules, that's just wishful thinking. Etiquette cannot be enforced; written gym policy can be enforced by managers, and if you are behaving in accordance with the gym policies, management will back you up. But if you are following etiquette--which may be contrary to the gym's actual policies--then no one's going to back you up on that.

If you follow anything other than that specific gym's policies, then you'll be caught out at some point.

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Does 'being caught out' equate to being 'wrong'? ....and if that happens, why would it necessarily be a bad thing? NTA you're a good person. You actively looked to see if someone else was using the machine. You made the judgement call to the best of your ability.

Well done on hitting the gym. It can be a place of positive encouragement.

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Does 'being caught out' equate to being 'wrong'? ....and if that happens, why would it necessarily be a bad thing? NTA you're a good person. You actively looked to see if someone else was using the machine. You made the judgement call to the best of your ability.

Well done on hitting the gym. It can be a place of positive encouragement.
Very kind of you, hearts beating.

"Being caught out" in this case means that no matter which side of a scenario I am on, I don't benefit in anyway.

I am perfectly happy to give up the machine if I can be reassured that can take a bathroom break and can demand the machine back even when others are waiting.
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Upon reading more of your answers, I think it would be best for you to purchase your own treadmill and workout at home. When you are talking about xx% of your workout time, that seems a bit too anal to be in public settings with many people trying to get things done.

You stated there was a stepmill available. Well then you should have gone to that. If you are following a program that is so rigid that you can't substitute when needed, then you need a new program or a private gym.

Common courtesy would have been for you to use the stepmill. You still get cardio benefits with that machine. I am not big on holding machines, however, I understand it within reason.

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And sometimes rules can be (temporarily) broken... or at least flexed.

I thought of your thread. I was running late for a pilates class and know the policy is they don't allow late-comers to enter. I arrived 2 minutes late and figured I wouldn't be permitted to join the class. That was indeed the case. My bad for being late. Carrying my mat and water bottle, I made my way to the weights area instead. As soon as I walked in, I realized I didn't have a towel. The 'rule' is to use a towel on the machines. Bugger.

I turned back around, was exiting the weights section, when the manager saw me and surprisingly knew I hadn't made it to pilates. I answered that I was two minutes too late. I said I was thinking of doing legs instead but... [it was obvious I was about to leave and manager interrupted with]...'No, there's no buts, get yourself back in there!' To which I continued '...But I don't have a towel with me for the machines.' I was told not to let that stop me from working out and they'd find a towel I could use.

So I worked out. A towel didn't make its way to me. I figured the staff were busy. The manager passed me as I was leaving, apologized for not getting me a towel and 'Well done' for doing legs. Note to self: be punctual and bring a towel.

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People on fixed schedules at a gym is common. If I saw a machine claimed but unoccupied I'd wait a reasonable time (2-3 minutes) and if no one returned I'd probable do one of two things: tell the staff and ask for their help/permission, or just take it.

If the person returned a minute or so after I started I might turn it back over to them or else tell them it was abandoned and I'll be done in X minutes. It's nice to be able to tell them I checked with the staff and had permission. Then the user's grief is with the gym and less with me.

I hate gyms and clubs (except for group classes) so I put in a gym and dry sauna in the house. That's not an answer for everyone, but I use it on my schedule and it's always clean and available.
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And sometimes rules can be (temporarily) broken... or at least flexed.

I thought of your thread. I was running late for a pilates class and know the policy is they don't allow late-comers to enter. I arrived 2 minutes late and figured I wouldn't be permitted to join the class. That was indeed the case. My bad for being late. Carrying my mat and water bottle, I made my way to the weights area instead. As soon as I walked in, I realized I didn't have a towel. The 'rule' is to use a towel on the machines. Bugger.

I turned back around, was exiting the weights section, when the manager saw me and surprisingly knew I hadn't made it to pilates. I answered that I was two minutes too late. I said I was thinking of doing legs instead but... [it was obvious I was about to leave and manager interrupted with]...'No, there's no buts, get yourself back in there!' To which I continued '...But I don't have a towel with me for the machines.' I was told not to let that stop me from working out and they'd find a towel I could use.

So I worked out. A towel didn't make its way to me. I figured the staff were busy. The manager passed me as I was leaving, apologized for not getting me a towel and 'Well done' for doing legs. Note to self: be punctual and bring a towel.
It sounds as if you did not try to enter the pilates class. You just simply gave up.

Imagine if you had attempted to join the pilates class and the instrustor turned you away.

And then you noticed one or more people joining the class after you were turned away.

How would you feel?
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Upon reading more of your answers, I think it would be best for you to purchase your own treadmill and workout at home. When you are talking about xx% of your workout time, that seems a bit too anal to be in public settings with many people trying to get things done.

You stated there was a stepmill available. Well then you should have gone to that. If you are following a program that is so rigid that you can't substitute when needed, then you need a new program or a private gym.

Common courtesy would have been for you to use the stepmill. You still get cardio benefits with that machine. I am not big on holding machines, however, I understand it within reason.
Why? I'm sure the gym would miss the revenue from my membership. surely, I cannot be that difficult for the management to accommodate.
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The membership from one person is not going to make or break a gym. Maybe I am reading wrong, but you have a sound of entitlement in your posts.


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The membership from one person is not going to make or break a gym. Maybe I am reading wrong, but you have a sound of entitlement in your posts.
only as much as someone who believes that they can block a machine from use for some unspecified amount of time.

Also, I would think the manager of a gym would want to know what's going on and why people are not renewing.

Perhaps you're one of those types who feel entitled to keep a machine for your personal use while others wait.
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It sounds as if you did not try to enter the pilates class. You just simply gave up.

Imagine if you had attempted to join the pilates class and the instrustor turned you away.

And then you noticed one or more people joining the class after you were turned away.

How would you feel?
'You just simply gave up' ...it may have come across that way to you but it wasn't. Although really, it would have been reasonable to have done that.

I did attempt to join the class. After running across the car park, of course it was worth asking! The reception staff checked to see if I could still get in and I couldn't. However knowing that I was late, I wasn't going to push the point. I appreciated her help in trying. This is why I wrote 'indeed that was the case' in terms of being late.

These glimmers of help make me feel it's a supportive gym. I can't get my head around the hypothetical scenario you gave me. It wouldn't happen.

There are rules and policies ...sometimes they can be flexed (or attempted to be), sometimes I need to flex. Sometimes a bit of both. Focusing on the Pilates class, it's understandable why that rule is in place. Late comers can distract the flow of the class. Why should the instructor and other patrons be disrupted because of my tardiness? I have a watch and timetable same as everyone else.

Personally I think you ought to go to the gym, be aware of the main 'rules' and the rest is in the moment and working with and around others.
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I agree with the cut off time for joining classes as well. I would just want to be sure that it is applied to others as well as myself.

As far as my own situation, now that I think of it, since he did not go to manager, there may not be a rule on this matter. Or else, he was not aware of it either.

After starting this thread, I've decided to only deal with this issue if it arises again. At the same time, for myself, during high time in the gym, I will avoid bathroom breaks while expecting to get the machine back.
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I agree that "holding machines" is a bad move. However, people have to be flexible in their workouts, when using a public facility. There were times where my program was to do stairmaster. Our gym only has 8 of them. At the time, all were taken. I didn't have a fit and monitor the time people were using them. I was flexible and just decided to switch to the treadmill - which I HATE. That is just a function of choosing to be at a public gym. Flexibility is required by all.

Again, I think it was a bad move to hold the machine. But, I also think your reaction and then the amount of emotional energy you have spent on it since could be much better directed. That is all I have been trying to get across.

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I agree that "holding machines" is a bad move. However, people have to be flexible in their workouts, when using a public facility. There were times where my program was to do stairmaster. Our gym only has 8 of them. At the time, all were taken. I didn't have a fit and monitor the time people were using them. I was flexible and just decided to switch to the treadmill - which I HATE. That is just a function of choosing to be at a public gym. Flexibility is required by all.

Again, I think it was a bad move to hold the machine. But, I also think your reaction and then the amount of emotional energy you have spent on it since could be much better directed. That is all I have been trying to get across.
Are you suggesting that I physically kicked some man off of a machine? If anything I kicked a towel and water bottle off the machine. I would certainly think that if people are on the machines that you would like to use that you adjust and move on.

I don't consider that towels and water bottles have the same standing as human being.

When the machines have a human being on them, I move on.

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