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post #46 of 73 (permalink) Old 08-25-2016, 10:19 PM
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Re: colonoscopy: do I really need it?

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Re: colonoscopy: do I really need it?

I'm over 50 and I haven't had one and I don't plan to have one.

So if you're taking votes, that's mine.
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I'm over 50 and I haven't had one and I don't plan to have one.

So if you're taking votes, that's mine.
From experience, that's not a good attitude. Unless dying from an easily avoidable cancer is your goal.
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Re: colonoscopy: do I really need it?

I'm very new to this thread, and haven't read all the way through it. So if this has been covered, my apologies.

I think it's a good idea to have your colon checked out but share your concerns about the procedure. Colon cancer is very preventable if checked and caught early.

An alternative to an invasive colonoscopy is a DNA test of stool sample. I've been following a company and their development of this procedure which is now FDA approved. The test is called "cologuard". You can read about it on the company's website. Company is "exact sciences." They developed the test working with the Mayo clinic.

So ask your doctor, see if your insurance covers this. You'd get a kit sent to you in the mail. Poop in a bucket, seal it up and ship it off to a lab. Non-invasive and detects cancer or pre-cancer. If positive for either then you'd get the "scope".

It's covered by some insurance but not all. Look at their stock price; it has tracked up recently as the test is getting more use.
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I'm very new to this thread, and haven't read all the way through it. So if this has been covered, my apologies.

I think it's a good idea to have your colon checked out but share your concerns about the procedure. Colon cancer is very preventable if checked and caught early.

An alternative to an invasive colonoscopy is a DNA test of stool sample. I've been following a company and their development of this procedure which is now FDA approved. The test is called "cologuard". You can read about it on the company's website. Company is "exact sciences." They developed the test working with the Mayo clinic.

So ask your doctor, see if your insurance covers this. You'd get a kit sent to you in the mail. Poop in a bucket, seal it up and ship it off to a lab. Non-invasive and detects cancer or pre-cancer. If positive for either then you'd get the "scope".

It's covered by some insurance but not all. Look at their stock price; it has tracked up recently as the test is getting more use.
Cologard can detect cancer or pre-cancerous polyps. But just not at 100% rate, and is not considered as good as colonoscopy (although I am unaware of any head-to-head randomized trials).
It appears to miss about 8% of cancers and about 60% of advanced precancerous polyps. So, at this point, it is NOT a equivalent substitute for a colonoscopy. Its role at this point seems to be best for persons who cannot, or will not, have a colonoscopy as a screening exam. Colon cancer screening rates are only just a little above 50% for the eligible population. Cologard may help this.

At this point, it is best to think of it as a second-tier test which when the better first line cannot, or will not, be used. It's better than the newer generation Fecal Blood testing (FIT).

Knowing this, I have opted for colonoscopy for myself recently (second one, never any polyps, so that tells you that I'm an old dog).
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My H had his first colonoscopy at age 40 as his father & grandfather both had colon cancer. His results were fine. He was advised to get one every 5 years after because of the family history. He put it off. The week before he turned 49 I had to have him ambulancd to the hospital because of sudden constant belly pain. Turns out he had stage 4 colon cancer

Cancer doesn't always grow slowly, but often it does grow without causing symptoms until it is too late. And I forget the exact numbers but people are being diagnosed with colon cancer at younger and younger ages all the time. It's the second most common cancer.

That was 1.5 years ago. He is still here and fighting, but his prognosis is poor. Believe me that the hell he has been through is way worse than a colonoscopy. Please get one!
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Re: colonoscopy: do I really need it?

My first ever experience with anesthesia was unplanned form a hockey head injury (In case some of you had thoughts on my sanity) So it was not prepared.

When I had my Colonoscopy I remember focusing on the exact moment the anesthesia took.

I remember the Dr. saying in his heavy Asian accent "Medicine Coming"......Lights Out

When I came to in recovery the nurse says to me .....Get all the gas out.

I said Yeah.....I'm usually pretty good at that

Get one folks it's harmless

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My first ever experience with anesthesia was unplanned form a hockey head injury (In case some of you had thoughts on my sanity) So it was not prepared.



When I had my Colonoscopy I remember focusing on the exact moment the anesthesia took.



I remember the Dr. saying in his heavy Asian accent "Medicine Coming"......Lights Out



When I came to in recovery the nurse says to me .....Get all the gas out.



I said Yeah.....I'm usually pretty good at that



Get one folks it's harmless



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The anesthetic often used is propofol. That is the one the killed Michael Jackson. One colonoscopy clinic gave dozens of patients Hep C because they used the vials for multiple patients. Not always harmless.
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Re: colonoscopy: do I really need it?

I've had it done twice, once at 30 and once at 40. The lead up sucks and the soreass is the worst part, though I dropped a couple pounds. Just go get one man, it could be your life. No dead person ever said, "I am sure glad I didn't get that colonoscopy."
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My first ever experience with anesthesia was unplanned form a hockey head injury (In case some of you had thoughts on my sanity) So it was not prepared.

When I had my Colonoscopy I remember focusing on the exact moment the anesthesia took.

I remember the Dr. saying in his heavy Asian accent "Medicine Coming"......Lights Out

When I came to in recovery the nurse says to me .....Get all the gas out.

I said Yeah.....I'm usually pretty good at that

Get one folks it's harmless

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B while that is true there is risk don't know the exacts odds but....

I would say that it in the range of .01% of either of those happening

But...... I would say that would be close to your survival rate if cancer does occur and realized far too late. It would have been 99.09 % avoidable.

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Re: colonoscopy: do I really need it?

Yep. Had it done couple of years ago. Procedure was cake walk. Sure there's possibility of anesthesia complication. But how is that different from getting laser eye surgery? (Got that done too)

I do understand the hesitation. It seems way too much like Kang and Kodos anal probe.
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Re: colonoscopy: do I really need it?

Invasive?! What's more invasive, a camera up your butt while you're sedated and dreaming warm happy dreams or a surgeon hacking out a section of your bowel while you're under general anesthesia?

I'll gladly choose the first type of invasive if it lets me avoid the second type. And by the way, yes, I had my colonoscopy a year ago and it was easy. The prep was no fun, though.
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Re: colonoscopy: do I really need it?

For the purpose of being truthful, I had a colonoscopy in Feb 2016. They removed a 2cm polyp which turned out to be precancerous. The procedure was a cake walk. I was given the drugs and was out almost immediately. When I woke up there was no way for me to know that anything had happened. I felt great. Went home.

Then about midnight I woke in horrible pain. Went the emergency room where I waited 4 hours in crying in pain. They ended up hospitalizing me for the pain where I stayed for 7 days on morphine and Percocet while they argued over why I had so much pain. Well duh... they had cut out a big polyp and burned the incision area. After 7 days of being over medicated with morphine and Percocet they finally gave me an anti-inflammatory med and the pain was gone within an hour. But by then I could not go home because days of laying in bed on drugs that slow down my breathing and blood flow.. I had blood clots in my lungs. The story gets worse after that, but I won't bore you.. basically I spent a month in the hospital had all kinds of complications and am now on oxygen 24/7. They tell me I should be off it by the end of the year.. who knows.

I think that most of the problems I had AFTER going into the hospital were caused by the hospital. It's a big, brand new beautiful building being run like a 3rd world flop hospital.

My point... is not to scare anyone. It's to point out that while most colonoscopies are harmless and do a lot of good, they are to be taken seriously because they can cause complications. I am however glad that I had it done because the alternative was for me to end up with full blow colon cancer. As bad as what I've been through is, colon cancer is 1000 times worse.

I think that a lot of people, especially men, will not get them due to embarrassment. You are out cold so there is nothing to be embarrassed about.
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For the purpose of being truthful, I had a colonoscopy in Feb 2016. They removed a 2cm polyp which turned out to be precancerous. The procedure was a cake walk. I was given the drugs and was out almost immediately. When I woke up there was no way for me to know that anything had happened. I felt great. Went home.

Then about midnight I woke in horrible pain. Went the emergency room where I waited 4 hours in crying in pain. They ended up hospitalizing me for the pain where I stayed for 7 days on morphine and Percocet while they argued over why I had so much pain. Well duh... they had cut out a big polyp and burned the incision area. After 7 days of being over medicated with morphine and Percocet they finally gave me an anti-inflammatory med and the pain was gone within an hour. But by then I could not go home because days of laying in bed on drugs that slow down my breathing and blood flow.. I had blood clots in my lungs. The story gets worse after that, but I won't bore you.. basically I spent a month in the hospital had all kinds of complications and am now on oxygen 24/7. They tell me I should be off it by the end of the year.. who knows.

I think that most of the problems I had AFTER going into the hospital were caused by the hospital. It's a big, brand new beautiful building being run like a 3rd world flop hospital.

My point... is not to scare anyone. It's to point out that while most colonoscopies are harmless and do a lot of good, they are to be taken seriously because they can cause complications. I am however glad that I had it done because the alternative was for me to end up with full blow colon cancer. As bad as what I've been through is, colon cancer is 1000 times worse.

I think that a lot of people, especially men, will not get them due to embarrassment. You are out cold so there is nothing to be embarrassed about.
I remember you being gone for a while. Were you on anti-coagulants for the clotting?

My wife woke up during the time they were burning off a polyp. The worst pain she ever felt.

I have to go on Tuesday. I know the doctor well since he has been treating my wife for 8 years, including for the liver disease. There is risk of perforated colon, but I would accept that.

I wish I had not read your thread until Wed, but thanks for sharing.
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After reading Ele's and Blueinbr's last post

Any chance I can give my colonoscopy back ??

Sorry you went through that Ele but the fact that you still endorse the procedure speaks volumes.

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