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Old 11-07-2008, 09:51 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I personally do not understand why the black community is so ecstatic about Obama. I mean he grew up in Hawaii, the only black association he had left when he was six, and he was raised by white elitists. he's got about as much african american culture in him as i do. I dont really get it. I guess its just the color of his skin. but i do think its cool that a guy, who's biological father is from africa, is the president now. that is pretty cool.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:53 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I personally do not understand why the black community is so ecstatic about Obama. I mean he grew up in Hawaii, the only black association he had left when he was six, and he was raised by white elitists. he's got about as much african american culture in him as i do. I dont really get it. I guess its just the color of his skin. but i do think its cool that a guy, who's biological father is from africa, is the president now. that is pretty cool.
not a slam, just a question, okay...

why do you think that's "cool???"

just curious
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:06 PM   #63 (permalink)
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If you put money in the pot to help buy the man a ticket to the White House, and he won, wouldn't you be ecstatic too?
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:11 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I think Will Smith is funny here, and Opra is so please to see that her share of the money got the man in there. Check it out..

YouTube - Will Smith Cried Over Obama's Election
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:42 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I imagine it is tough for most white people to understand including myself, but just some 40 years ago, blacks could not vote, they were battered, cursed, spit, protested, etc, they were "seperate, but equal"

Things have changed the impossible dream of Martin Luther King Jr is comming to pass were a man of color can hold the highest office in the land.


I really do not see what the big deal is, he is just a man.

the most interesting statistic is that the majority of his voters were, Blacks, Hispanics, and Whites that held a college degree.

I am ok with a man who has studied at Columbia, Harvard and the University of Chicago, all top universities of the US. I also understand the "connections" he had with some, but knowing college is about experimentaion and trying to find yourself as a person, and then you become the person you are after college. College is about challenging idea's and trying to make things better over all, how you get to that point is not always a cler and smooth ride, sometimes it is bumpy, and sometimes adversity can be the best teacher out there.

That is why I was fine with either John McCain or Barrack Obama as president.
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Old 11-10-2008, 07:27 AM   #66 (permalink)
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I can respect you and what you said there, but not everyone that goes to College knows what the #@!! they are doing. Ex: like some doctors you go to, some don't know $#!^ stinks, and can do more damage to ya than good. While others know more. I don't care if the President is purple, as long as he has good values and morals and respects this country. Does his job and don't lie to the American people. Thanks all you can hope for.
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:29 AM   #67 (permalink)
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chill honey, It was just a statistic, about who voted for him, I thought it was interesting.

25% of Americans have a college degree, 75% don't.

I view college education as a goal that has been met. Simple as that, intelligence can not be measured in one form, there are many forms.

I can write a great computer program, yet can't fix my car. I marvel at the guy that can. Did you ever see the complex plays a professional football player has to know? the many aspects of it? it can make your head spin.

My point is, say Fox news for exapmle, I find them very Biased and almost racist, they trash Obama as much as possible, but ont he other hand, BET has him walking on water.

He is just a man, simple as that, he is our leader, either he will do a good job or a bad job.

We all can admit Bush has done a terrible job at the helm and I did vote for him.
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:13 AM   #68 (permalink)
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vovoid, after a few weeks or less, the focus about him being a black president and the first black US president, will fall and the focus will coem back on him being the new president. And he will eb watched and aplauded and criticised as any other before him.
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:15 AM   #69 (permalink)
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I think it ashame that racism is still prevalent here in 2008. And why is it so hard to admit that racism is ignorance.
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:23 AM   #70 (permalink)
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but viewing obama with caution, knowing his past connections and "friends" (i posted a short list earlier) is NOT ignorance. in fact, ignoring that IS ignorance. or trtying to say that's playing the race card, THAT'S ignorance. steer the conversation away from the facts, THAT'S ignorance.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:51 AM   #71 (permalink)
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not a slam, just a question, okay...

why do you think that's "cool???"

just curious
Well, b/c i've always loved africa. I love the culture, the history, and the people. I'd love to live there some day. many of the people in africa are horribly repressed. And when one only see's oneself, and one's people as repressed, its very, very difficult to get out of that rut. But i wonder what it must mean for some in other countries, to know that a person with roots in their country, is now leading a very powerful, largely white elitist, nation. For those who are destitute in African, I think this could be the miracle they need to realize their potential.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:10 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Void, Sometimes it's good to know your enemy. The opposition.

We study other cultures and how they operate in oder to defend ourselves.

He was a young man who was highly intelligent. He has come across people who were "outside of the box thinkers" When he was in College, civil unrest was normal. He was a young black american who had to fight for his rights.

Not sure how old you are, But I am sure if you are over 40 then you know the hardships young black americans had to face in the 60's and 70's.

Time heals all wonds and racism will be healed overtime.

While he may have met with these men and studied them, he might have learned what he "does not want to be" he could have gone the radical route, but he chose instead to become a harvard lawyer and make a difference for people the "correct way" as opposed to the wrong way.

I have faith in our governments checks and balances that we will not go to far left, if we do, well then it will be corrected int eh next 2-4 years, just like under Clinton.
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Void, Sometimes it's good to know your enemy. The opposition.

While he may have met with these men and studied them, he might have learned what he "does not want to be" he could have gone the radical route, but he chose instead to become a harvard lawyer and....
and learn how to temper the language of radicalism to sound more moderate. that list of "friends" that i provided...if they were yours, you'd be under surveillance.

note: voting stats were cited earlier. single moms voted overwhelmingly for obama. i don't remember the percentages, but they were big.
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---I hope you're right. I don't see it, though. Certain parts of the country seem to have narrowed the gap, but for many parts of the country, that gap is widening.
I think its healing, but it just has to swing the other direction first. Its interesting to me how much a large body of society models a single relationship between two people.

I've heard a lot of racial slurs against whites by blacks. As a child i grew up watching the L.A. riots, the OJ simpson revolts, and i was taught at school that blacks could get away with just about anything. In the present day, some lady on the bus the other day called me a 'cracker', a black guy was mocking some white girl who was reading, and there was another person who had to leave my apartment complex b/c she was racially attacking some white lady. I live in a largely black area. But i think whites dont care about the past as much. I know i dont. i wasnt there, i dont know what happened, but usually in any relationship the one who is offended and hurt, retaliates and then mellows out. It feels like its starting to mellow out. Those riots in L.A. were somethin' else.

As far as racism goes, i think whites are the new black, for blacks, and mexican is the new black, to whites.
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I think it ashame that racism is still prevalent here in 2008. And why is it so hard to admit that racism is ignorance.
i generally try to steer clear of debating racism. but this guy (letter to the editor of the washington times) does a pretty good job of expressing some of my frustration with the subject.

Washington Times - LETTER TO EDITOR: The reverse-racism card
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