But it IS also what he says.
I've never expected him to apologize for his faith. I bet that we would agree on more things than we disagree.
The apologies - which I don't expect to receive - would be for things like telling me that it will hurt my brain once I begin to learn to think. Or telling me I misquoted Emerson when I didn't.
Or telling you (Rose) that you had "butchered" one of your first posts on this thread.
He claims people have called him a sinner and other names because of his faith. I haven't seen that on this particular thread.
I understand what you are saying... and I am sorry that his words were hurtful to you...
To PH -
1 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
To EVERYONE... PH and I included....
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
And to any that had a Christian marriage... these words hold true not just for your spouse but EVERYONE on this fantastic blue ball...
Yes.. I do realize PH used the word 'butchered' in reference to me... I CHOOSE to take that meaning in the literal translation... meaning to cut up... which I simplified for expedience.. I didn't want to cut and paste the Oxford Dictionary in my post... perhaps that was not a good move on my part as PH does like to be thorough. I CHOOSE to remove the assumption of venom hidden within the word. I CHOOSE to think of PH as a very intelligent, thought provoking, inquisitive mind albeit he may be hurt and lashing out from previous experiences. He is, still, and always will be, a human... we all are...and we ALL stumble once in a while. I will NEVER meter out, ration, qualify my compassion and caring even if he lashes out at me. His or anyone elses venom can never EVER change what I am...
I have engaged many discussions in this forum... I always attempt to understand the others point of view and perspective... and there are times when I express my thoughts, backed up with logic, and I am always open to exploring if my logic is faulty by anothers thoughts.
Sometimes I am able to get through to some people, sometimes not. And when it is obvious that a thread and posters upon that thread have no intention of looking outside their narrow thought, stubborn and abusive... it is futile for me to continue. I discontinue to participate and walk away no matter what is fired at me.
I however will ALWAYS engage a curious, introspective and open mind... it is enlightening to all people within. The feedback is beneficial to all. And of course, as fitting of my character I try to do so in a polite, clear, calm manner. Doesn't mean I don't get frustrated sometimes and I slip up.. but I learn from my mistakes... I remain... oh so wonderfully human!