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Old 12-02-2011, 11:20 AM   #736 (permalink)
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We don't watch television (just movies and the such), so we don't see a lot of these ads. But when we do, we laugh. Such horseshet.
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I think that it is normal for commercials to show how well a product works. I highly doubt it is meant as an insult.

Life is too short and too busy to analyze everything that comes on TV.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:40 PM   #738 (permalink)
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I see this thread is still going.

I subscribe to several sites where I receive quotes via email. Yesterday I received this one regarding what feminism is - or rather what it should be.

"I do not wish them (women) to have power over men, but over themselves." ~Mary Wollstonecraft

That pretty much says it all for me.
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:38 PM   #739 (permalink)
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I see this thread is still going.

I subscribe to several sites where I receive quotes via email. Yesterday I received this one regarding what feminism is - or rather what it should be.

"I do not wish them (women) to have power over men, but over themselves." ~Mary Wollstonecraft

That pretty much says it all for me.
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:05 PM   #740 (permalink)
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I have no clue why everybody is getting all uppity. I don't believe it was stated here that a career woman is intrinsically better than a SAHM. I never felt that way. I have however said that I would strongly discourage a woman from giving up financial dependence due to the fact that the laws have changed so drastically and there is little financial protection for a woman who has been out of the work force for many years raising children.

As for Carlin, if you believe that, then clearly feminism is lost on you. If middle class white women don't care about the plight of any other woman with a different skin color, then explain to me why is it that women (gasp....white middle class women) brought to the worlds attention female genital mutilation and breast rolling....two decidedly "none white" womens issues? Nevermind that we continue to fight for womens rights globally (me in Mexico) both with our voices, time and wallets. Never saw Carlin care much except when Comedy Central was filming him, Whoopi and Billy to raise funds for homeless people. After the cameras stopped rolling he most certainly took hoards of homeless men, women and children to his mid town Manhattan 46th floor apartment, right? Ever seen it? I have. He sure took NIMBY to a whole new level while of course pointing a crooked finger at everybody else.....particularly white middle class women.
The Carlin bit is almost 40 years old and might have meant more back then, and meant to help lighten the mood In regards to his personal take on any of these issues.... I dont have a clue, hes a funny guy and thats enough for me.

I was just jumping on the "Working class women are evil" bandwagon.
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Life is too short and too busy to analyze everything that comes on TV.
But not too busy to post regularly on a pink relationship help forum.

It is relevant to the issue of gender roles and that relates to feminism's equaling of said gender roles, which was the movement's point, and it is also the point of a discussion such as this. One can take issue with it simply being a commercial, and that is his/her prerogative. Images (print or TV) are important messages, whether it be burning bras, the adult film industry, dad moms or even going back to Annie's "Anything you can do, I can do better." Many points on how media relates to this were discussed earlier in the thread.

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I had to stop being friends with this woman my age, because she was stupid and had no ambition.

All she wanted to do was push out babies and stay home with them. She did not try to persue higher education or a career. Hello? Is this 1952?? I would rather drink bleach than live off of a man, which is why I am returning to school to further my career prospects.
You will, hopefully, be taught how to utilize critical thinking skills (looking at multiple angles of a subject, macro level and micro level) when you are seeking your education.
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I subscribe to several sites where I receive quotes via email. Yesterday I received this one regarding what feminism is - or rather what it should be.

"I do not wish them (women) to have power over men, but over themselves." ~Mary Wollstonecraft

That pretty much says it all for me.
The issue is that it's crossed over into a sense of entitlement or has been taken out of context over time, and the after-effects of all that.

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I see this thread is still going.
I do think, perhaps, that you are on to something here. It's time for me to bow out of this feminism thread. I need to do a better job at finding that “Weaning myself off of TAM” thread that I saw a few weeks back.

To the future!
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The issue is that it's crossed over into a sense of entitlement or has been taken out of context over time, and the after-effects of all that.

Feminism is certainly not alone in this.
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But not too busy to post regularly on a pink relationship help forum. You see, this forum is helpful, so I enjoy spending my time here. Picking apart commercials is not going to change anything in my world, but if others evidently choose to do so, good for them. I was just stating my opinion.

It is relevant to the issue of gender roles and that relates to feminism's equaling of said gender roles, which was the movement's point, and it is also the point of a discussion such as this. Yes, I realize that. I can read. One can take issue with it simply being a commercial, and that is his/her prerogative. Images (print or TV) are important messages, whether it be burning bras, the adult film industry, dad moms or even going back to Annie's "Anything you can do, I can do better." Many points on how media relates to this were discussed earlier in the thread.Since I have enough time to post here religiously, I have also been following this thread. I even posted in it.



You will, hopefully, be taught how to utilize critical thinking skills (looking at multiple angles of a subject, macro level and micro level) when you are seeking your education.I hope that your reading comprehension and attention to detail will improve someday. It is really cute the way you attempted to belittle me, yet you only managed to make yourself look rather presumptious and asinine.
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