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post #106 of 110 (permalink) Old 09-19-2016, 12:38 AM Thread Starter
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Ah, did we edit the earlier version of this post where you linked to a story about how romantic it was for Will Durant to marry his 15 year old student? Is 15 an adult now?

And ... yeah the fact that you had "high value" to your wife in a student/teacher scenario really doesn't speak volumes on how much you understand the "game" you are pushing.
I edited that out because it is irrelevant. We were both in our 40's when we met.


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Then why include it to begin with? You didn't realize it was irrelevant at the time to romantize a grown man hooking up with a 15 year old?

What's the mindset to even feeling the need to mention that to begin with?

I mean, honestly, that's the kind of casual random thing that Red Pill "activists" say that give off the rape apologist vibe.
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Why?
Because I'm curious on how you demonstrated your high value. I want to understand your point of view.

She was helping you write a book, but she was your student? With adults, the issue of teacher/student relationship is that the teacher has undue influence over the student since the teacher gives the grade for the course. But it sounds like there was no class, there were no grades. There was no course work or curriculum. There were just two people working together.

It sounds more like a working relationship since she was helping you.

How much time did the two of you spend together? Did you start going out together and do thing beyond the work on your book?
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Because I'm curious on how you demonstrated your high value. I want to understand your point of view.

She was helping you write a book, but she was your student? With adults, the issue of teacher/student relationship is that the teacher has undue influence over the student since the teacher gives the grade for the course. But it sounds like there was no class, there were no grades. There was no course work or curriculum. There were just two people working together.

It sounds more like a working relationship since she was helping you.

How much time did the two of you spend together? Did you start going out together and do thing beyond the work on your book?
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No, you're not a freak of nature. You're a loving wife. Most men would give their left arms to have your twin sister as their wives.

I say this because even though your husband can't fulfill all your fantasies, you still love and adore him, as is clear in every post you make.

If most other women were like you, we wouldn't be talking about the red pill at all.

I'm just "Old fashioned" at @tech-novelist ...

The whole hyper-gamy thing (new word I learned reading here) just sounds so wrong... choosing a life partner / commitment is about so much MORE over "social class"..this is but one aspect of a whole in relation to our men. IF these things are happening more so in our world today... that women are leaving such men, even good husbands (but are they?)... yes this would be a shame...

But we've all seen the flip side too... men of higher status also leave their faithful wives for a younger sexier model ... I find both very unfortunate & it puts a sour taste in my mouth to the character of each. Does Hugh Hefner really think those babes want his body & is attracted to him?? OH please... it's about a "Lifestyle".... I can't imagine these things give anyone True happiness, with the easy exchanging -just because they CAN.. due to money or drop dead gorgeous looks..

About my husband fulfilling my fantasies...this doesn't mean I haven't gotten out of hand over some of these things (his struggling to push the sexually dominate bar with me)...I've done threads on it, being very Open -to the point of making myself LOOK BAD even...I've taken ridicule here for trying to change him into something he is NOT.... (funny thing is -I never cared or even thought about these things our 1st 19 yrs - crazy what some mid life hormones can do to our minds/ emotions suddenly)....

It seems many end their marriages around this volatile time..I was determined to dig my heels in deeper & bring HIM along for the ride!

A couple years ago now... I literally set my "spice jar" on fire in front of him one night.. I was PI$$ED....as he agreed / we agreed - to his pulling out a snippet and trying it on me, every now & then (these my fantasies).... I kept waiting & waiting & waiting.. .months would go past.... NOTHING...then one night (I was PMSing - typical) and I unleashed on him... (One blessed thing about him.. he can admit he f***ked up, letting me down)..... so yeah...we have fought on occasion about this...

This is not to belittle our sex life though.. I am primarily a sensual Romantic (and very passionate about that) - over an Erotic thrill seeker ..in this, he fills me up.. I've had to separate what is a NEED and what is a WANT, exciting as it may have been... Sometimes we can't have it all.

I have to agree with FW when she said this:
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I could post a lot of links that would seem to disprove RP theory as well....but the point is moot either way, because no studies on such small scales and for such narrow purposes will ever explain human mating behavior in some neat little box. It can't be done. And thank god for that, if you ask me!

There is a significant number of males who enjoy sexually aggressive females as well.

There is a significant number of men and women who don't enjoy an aggressive sexual partner at all.
Funny thing about my husband is - He ENJOYS ME BEING the AGGRESSOR - which comes pretty naturally - so long as I feel loved & Cherished, that is.... but he can't seem to wrap his brain around why I want that.. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, I've knocked my head against the wall about this a number of times... but it is what it is..


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The sad thing to me about RP is that I think its sending a message to men that being a jerk is the way to get women. That has literally nothing to do with it. Its honestly about just being yourself, being real, being authentic. Stop listening to people (male and female) that are trying to tell you what kind of man you should be. Just be comfortable in your skin and be the person that you really are. You're better off that way. Even if you manage to attract someone based on a facade. It won't last.
I wish it was this simple ...and it should BE... many carry insecurities with them..we want to leave the BEST impression, we want a chance to get in the door.. then we'll figure it out later.. if we can just get someone hooked 1st -with some initial charm.... isn't this what so many try to do??

Honestly.. when I met my husband.. we were just 2 lowly nobodys.. We both spoke & laughed how we hung out with the outcasts... I think we both felt comfortable with each other from the get -go...he was just a nice guy wanting to get to know me.. I was just looking for someone authentic...who really wanted to get to KNOW ME... I've met my share of guys trying to TALK themselves UP..you never know what the heck to believe..

Honesty/ a willing transparency / Authenticity has always meant more to me - over "mystery" and excitement.. I do feel differing female personalities may be more attracted to the "Mysterious" type though...we're just not all the same....


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And that high value was what? Money? Good jokes? Incredible talent at Trivial Pursuit?

There's many things individuals might place as "high value" that RP doesn't seem to value.

I place a high value on being able to watch Sci-Fi with someone who isn't confused. That might be a Beta talent, no idea.
I place high value on the man wanting to be my Best friend in addition to my Lover....this has always meant a great deal to me...

I don't think all that many men out there would care to watch Chick Flicks with their wives/ girlfriends - they would tell her to GET LOST, go find some women to watch that crap with.... My husband watches the Bachelor with me too...he tells me he enjoys it - just being together... but then I'll get all greasy & grimy laying under a truck to help him in the garage, pulling out a transmission or something, doing body work, things like that...so it evens out...
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