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I absolutely agree. I think political correctness has not only hidden the opinions of many people, causing the democrats to fail to create a winning agenda, but it has cause a huge backlash against perceived intolerance.

They gay rights movement has been a huge success partly because they concentrated on the important issues, and didn't insist that everyone agree with absolutely every issue, and use exactly the correct language. they were very inclusive - as long as you were generally in favor of equal rights for all orientations, you were viewed as a friend / ally. They never asked people to accept their responsibility for previous oppression as part of the "straight culture".

Recently there has been a strong liberal movement to make all white males feel guilty for past sexism, racis etc. Well, some of those white males got tired of hearing complaints about things they themselves had not done, and so they voted for the other side. Not many, but enough.


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Traditionally the Christian would never vote for a candidate who is for abortion and planned parenthood. This is such a trigger point for Christians. But let's be honest, trump is a closet democrats. (I have no problem with trump by the way, I look forward to what he will do for our country. I do have a problem with the growing hate in this country and it scares me.) Trump has been the complete opposite of what a Christian believes in... so much to the point that the pope even spoke out against him. That is HUGE. Yet he won the Bible Belt voters. Why?? Because they are united in hate. Their hate for immigration, their hate for muslims. It blows my mind and deeply saddens me. No one projected such a victorious win for trump, why? Because he had secret voters, and so much of our country is closet racists.
Muslims hate Christians and Jews and any non-Muslims more. I'm sorry, but you aren't convincing me.

I haven't seen too many Christians or Jews flying planes into skyscrapers.

If the good Imams would declare a fatwah against the azzholes in their own religion who cause all the havoc we have seen in the world, create an Islamic philosophy that doesn't enslave women, doesn't call anyone who does not agree with them infidels, and doesn't issue hits on people who speak out against their religion, then I will be more likely to agree with you. Islam at its fundamental is a religion of intolerance. If you are not a Muslim you are an infidel, which means you are open to being killed, shunned, excluded, villified and persecuted.
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Yet he won the Bible Belt voters. Why?? Because they are united in hate. Their hate for immigration, their hate for muslims. It blows my mind and deeply saddens me. No one projected such a victorious win for trump, why? Because he had secret voters, and so much of our country is closet racists.

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there will always be fringe elements that will hover like flies around the potential of power.

the american communist party usa chairman endorsed bernie sanders and then now says he will vote for hillary.
i never heard her repudiate his endorsement. nor should she have to.

there are extreme elements within the organization 'la raza' which seek to return california and all the southwest to a grand
aztec paradise called 'aztlan'. they always endorse the democratic party.

nutcases like the clan are always seeking publicity at the expense of others.

pick your candidate and i will show you fringe groups from either extreme end of the spectrum that will endorse them.
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@katiecrna Maybe if Obama did not screw up healthcare your husband would not have to work 80-100 hours a week and you could have a better relationship.

Did he screw it up? My doctor thinks so.
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He won because hard working Americans were able to get off work in time to vote.

Far more vitriol and hatred have come from the left, claiming anyone voting for Trump is a racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, uneducated red-neck.

Progressive ideology in the Democrat party is diametrically opposed to the word of God.

He won because enough parents care about their children's future.
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Traditionally the Christian would never vote for a candidate who is for abortion and planned parenthood. This is such a trigger point for Christians. But let's be honest, trump is a closet democrats. (I have no problem with trump by the way, I look forward to what he will do for our country. I do have a problem with the growing hate in this country and it scares me.) Trump has been the complete opposite of what a Christian believes in... so much to the point that the pope even spoke out against him. That is HUGE. Yet he won the Bible Belt voters. Why?? Because they are united in hate. Their hate for immigration, their hate for muslims. It blows my mind and deeply saddens me. No one projected such a victorious win for trump, why? Because he had secret voters, and so much of our country is closet racists.
He won 80-15 among evangelicals because of the Wikileaks revelation of the utter contempt the Clinton campaign held them in, as well as her support for partial-birth abortion, AKA infanticide.

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Traditionally the Christian would never vote for a candidate who is for abortion and planned parenthood. This is such a trigger point for Christians. But let's be honest, trump is a closet democrats. (I have no problem with trump by the way, I look forward to what he will do for our country. I do have a problem with the growing hate in this country and it scares me.) Trump has been the complete opposite of what a Christian believes in... so much to the point that the pope even spoke out against him. That is HUGE. Yet he won the Bible Belt voters. Why?? Because they are united in hate. Their hate for immigration, their hate for muslims. It blows my mind and deeply saddens me. No one projected such a victorious win for trump, why? Because he had secret voters, and so much of our country is closet racists.
So the same racists stayed home for 8 years to let Obama get elected but they turned out in droves to banish Hillary.

Just.... LMFAO. At this "Politics and Religion" section. All morning, the crazy conspiracy theories are flying.


Welcome to the 21st century America.

Where it's okay to vote for a woman for president solely because she's was going to be the "first woman president"....

But instead we are all sexist dogs for electing Donald Trump because the majority didn't want that lying snake in office.

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So the same racists stayed home for 8 years to let Obama get elected but they turned out in droves to banish Hillary.

Just.... LMFAO. At this "Politics and Religion" section. All morning, the crazy conspiracy theories are flying.


Welcome to the 21st century America.

Where it's okay to vote for a woman for president solely because she's was going to be the "first women president"....

But instead we are all sexist dogs for electing Donald Trump because the majority didn't want that lying snake in office.
This brings up an interesting point that I've been avoiding. If you are among the Americans who supposedly voted for Hilary because she would be the first woman president, wouldn't that make you a sexist? Is that not the definition of bigotry?

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This brings up an interesting point that I've been avoiding. If you are among the Americans who supposedly voted for Hilary because she would be the first woman president, wouldn't that make you a sexist? Is that not the definition of bigotry?
Only white males can be sexist and/or racist in 21st century America apparently....

Because we are born with "privilege" over everyone else. Didn't you know?

Must be like buying a car and getting the turbo deluxe package for free or something.

Lucky me!


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Calling someone a sexist because they fundamentally do not believe in abortion is bigotry.

Bigotry is intolerance of another's beliefs.
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This brings up an interesting point that I've been avoiding. If you are among the Americans who supposedly voted for Hilary because she would be the first woman president, wouldn't that make you a sexist? Is that not the definition of bigotry?


Of course. I didn't vote for Hillary because she is a women.
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This brings up an interesting point that I've been avoiding. If you are among the Americans who supposedly voted for Hilary because she would be the first woman president, wouldn't that make you a sexist? Is that not the definition of bigotry?
Yeah I noticed that watching a vid on youtube about women being distressed because their hopes of "the first woman president" were shattered... I was like, erm, people voted for THAT?!
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Only white males can be sexist and/or racist in 21st century America apparently....

Because we are born with "privilege" over everyone else. Didn't you know?

Must be like buying a car and getting the turbo deluxe package for free or something.

Lucky me!


Not at all. I have never met more women haters than women. I went to a college full of Christian women who don't think women should be in leadership positions. Women can be sexist. Blacks can be racist. I don't know where you get this white males can only be racist and sexist.
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Yeah I noticed that watching a vid on youtube about women being distressed because their hopes of "the first woman president" were shattered... I was like, erm, people voted for THAT?!
I have seen several comments from women about the glass ceiling and once again how it could not be shattered. I understand the desire to have a woman in what has always been a male position of power. My problem is these glass ceiling comments I have seen made today are made in the context that the only reason HRC didn't win was b/c she was a woman (which of course implies that anyone who did not vote for her did so based solely on her gender)...
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