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post #121 of 163 (permalink) Old 11-12-2016, 04:35 PM
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Re: Speculation on what to expect now

I predict the people who are protesting in the streets today will all (finally) get jobs and make a living as the economy improves from various policies ended or initiated by President Trump and the Republican Senate and House.

Then the same people who protested his election will say that the economy only got better because Trump "inherited" an improving economy from all the policies originated by Obama.

I also predict that President Trump will not complete every promise he made, but will have made some progress in all those areas. The Liberals will accuse him of lying, and will call those who voted for him "stupid" for believing him. They will try to use any uncompleted promises against him in the 2020 election, but He will win again, because over 1/2 the people who vote in the next election are not as stupid as the media and those who watch/listen to them think they are.

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I've made over 50k in the stock market in two days. Of course, that means nothing to me.
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I've made over 50k in the stock market in two days. Of course, that means nothing to me.
If you made this money in two days either you have a lot of money in the market to begin with, in which case who wins is irrelevant, or you invest in riskier / day trading type securities, in which case, the more volatility the better.
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Have you guys ever wondered about Obama and Clinton working with Trump now? Not so sure if it's really cordial, their transition speeches to the public include alot of stammering, nervousness, and I dare say, political correctness. They seem painful. It seems done out of two reasons, the first being that they have to - the consequences if they dont would be far too severe in comparison, and the second as the saying goes "keep your friends close, but your enemies..."
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Have you guys ever wondered about Obama and Clinton working with Trump now? Not so sure if it's really cordial, their transition speeches to the public include alot of stammering, nervousness, and I dare say, political correctness. They seem painful. It seems done out of two reasons, the first being that they have to - the consequences if they dont would be far too severe in comparison, and the second as the saying goes "keep your friends close, but your enemies..."
I think Obama is trying to use his influence over Trump to protect the country, to the extent he can.

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Heh yeah that sounds about right, but to protect your country or to protect his own interests, his own legacy? Apparently he managed to convince Trump to hold onto some aspects of his Obamacare.
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Heh yeah that sounds about right, but to protect your country or to protect his own interests, his own legacy? Apparently he managed to convince Trump to hold onto some aspects of his Obamacare.
I don't think Trump, nor the republicans for that matter, need a lot of convincing. There has been a lot of posturing in the past few years from the republicans. Now they have to show what better plan they have. If you want to keep the pre-existing clause, I do not see how you can do it without the insurance mandate.

It is going to be really interesting in the next few months.

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Heh yeah that sounds about right, but to protect your country or to protect his own interests, his own legacy? Apparently he managed to convince Trump to hold onto some aspects of his Obamacare.
I don't think Obama is a selfish man. I doubt he would care who got credit for the ACA. He just wanted to make sure people got the care they needed.

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I would agree with the first part. In fact it is probably one of the only reasons I can think of to support or defend Trump. Thanks for being honest.
As to the second part, not so much. I think he has alienated his own party and will already have to deal with opposition from the Dems. I doubt he will achieve much of anything. In fact I think if you want to keep track, his admin will probably turn out to be one of the least effective in the past 50 years. And any "achievements" he may have will probably come back to bite us in the azz even more so than those of Reagan's, either Bush's, Clinton's or Obama's.
Of course you could be right but I am hopeful (for the first time in memory) that he might accomplish something good.

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I've made over 50k in the stock market in two days. Of course, that means nothing to me.
My account is down more than that in the last week, but the relief from the election results overwhelms that.


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If you made this money in two days either you have a lot of money in the market to begin with, in which case who wins is irrelevant, or you invest in riskier / day trading type securities, in which case, the more volatility the better.
Or maybe she has $10 million in the market.

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I don't think Trump, nor the republicans for that matter, need a lot of convincing. There has been a lot of posturing in the past few years from the republicans. Now they have to show what better plan they have. If you want to keep the pre-existing clause, I do not see how you can do it without the insurance mandate.
Nah, it's a lot cheaper to pay the insurance companies for that extra risk than to keep ACA in place.

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It is going to be really interesting in the next few months.
There we can agree!

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I predict the people who are protesting in the streets today will all (finally) get jobs and make a living as the economy improves from various policies ended or initiated by President Trump and the Republican Senate and House.

And I predict that the economy will do whatever the hell it wants to do, independent of the occupant in the white house and, to a lesser extent, the congress.

You give the POTUS way too much credit/blame for the business conditions in this country.
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I think Obama is trying to use his influence over Trump to protect the country, to the extent he can.
Protect the country from what? He is the most divisive president in history. His rhetoric has divided the rich from the poor, conservatives from liberals, Republicans from Democrats, blacks from whites, citizens and lawful immigrants from illegal immigrants.

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I don't think Obama is a selfish man. I doubt he would care who got credit for the ACA. He just wanted to make sure people got the care they needed.
I disagree. Obama took credit for ACA, just like he took credit for many other things, but when there were bad news, he blamed others. He blamed the American people, he blamed the military generals, he blamed Bush, ...

He even blamed ATMs and airport kiosks for job loss. ""Layoffs too often became permanent, not part of the business cycle. And these changes didn't just affect blue collar workers. If you were a bank teller or a phone operator or a travel agent, you saw many in your profession replaced by ATMs and the internet," President Obama said at a campaign event in Kansas."

One of his nicknames is the blamer-in-chief.
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He even blamed ATMs and airport kiosks for job loss. ""Layoffs too often became permanent, not part of the business cycle. And these changes didn't just affect blue collar workers. If you were a bank teller or a phone operator or a travel agent, you saw many in your profession replaced by ATMs and the internet," President Obama said at a campaign event in Kansas."
When was the last time you used a travel agent?
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