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I don't know. He was no Rhodes scholar, and he did have a penchant for making up words, but he at least tried to use adjectives beyond "huge" and "tremendous" once in a while. I always thought the village idiot meme was a little too harsh, even if I laughed at the curious George cartoons.

Today, I almost miss the man. When I thought America had made a poor choice, I had no idea of what we were capable.

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So you judge a President just by "intelligence"?

Jimmy Carter had a 153 I.Q., and he was a fvcking disaster.

The Simonton IQ polls list the top 10 "smartest" presidents as follows:

1) John Adams - 173
2) T. Jefferson - 160
3) John Kennedy - 158
4) Bill Clinton - 156
5) James Madiosn - 155
6) J. Carter 153
7) Woodrow Wilson 152
8) Teddy Roosevelt 149
9) James Garfield 148
10) Chester Arthur 148

Gerald Ford was lowest at 111.
The vilified G.W. Bush came in at 124.

George Washington father of our country? 130.

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Wow. Frightening.
The only class that's more arrogant than those billionaire developers is star architects
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Market will continue to do well. Middle class wages will stay stagnate. Cost of goods will rise. Wealthy will do even better. Wealth gap widens. Blue collars duped but will refuse to see why and blame liberals.
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The blue collar folk voted for Reagan too. How well did that work out for them?
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The only class that's more arrogant than those billionaire developers is star architects
They work together, too, right?

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The blue collar folk voted for Reagan too. How well did that work out for them?
It made them feel good in the moment. The successful politician's secret.

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Trump is not a moron. He is however a reckless individual who has no qualms about rushing headlong into the fray. The way he spends his companies' moneys erratically, hedges his fortunes on stupidly risky ventures, and then expects the banks to bail him out....that kind of crap is what scares me about him.

Frankly, I don't think Trump is any more devious or immoral or aggressive than any other head of industry. I've done constructions projects for billionaires in Arizona, California and Texas, and they are all, to a man, aggressive, competitive and arrogant. They have to be. To exert that kind of control over big corporations you have to be slicker and stronger than your competitors.

Right now I'm building two restaurants for the owner of the Houston Astros, and while I do like him, he has a ruthlessness that scares me sometimes. And he's what?...one out of a hundred or so billionaires here in Houston?
I think that you bring up some great points. I have all along questioned his motive, or really lack thereof, for being President. He's never wanted that before. I'm really afraid that he's just after more power and more money. That's been his only motivation for his whole life. Does he really want to make America better, or just add to his legacy.

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I am amazed working people would vote for him knowing he did not pay his own workers.
I am not. Can name blue collar workers who voted for him knowing their child, who had cancer, may have trouble being covered once ACA is repealed. Vote against the best interest of your own child. That is how brainwashed they are.
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They work together, too, right?
Yes... But generally what happens is that mega developers don't hire star architects. Not these days at least.

I know from my daughter's circle, anything Trump or other mega developer related rarely involves famous architects. Once in a while it does, but not often. The Chicago Spire (lol) was a good example, but it wasn't architecture or egos that killed it.
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Does he really want to make America better, or just add to his legacy.
In his mind? He can do both concurrently.
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Bill could speak to them. Charisma can work wonders. She doesn't have it.
You nailed it right there. Low intelligence, high charisma.

Also, he appealed to people of average or lower intelligence, because they felt that he was someone like them who made it big, therefore with his leadership, they could too.

Not to mention a fairly strong undercurrent of dislike by the average for the intelligent for their unavoidable air of superiority.

Personally, I want my leaders to be smarter than I am AND have loads of charisma. Most people like that find somewhere other than politics to focus their talent on.

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I think that you bring up some great points. I have all along questioned his motive, or really lack thereof, for being President. He's never wanted that before. I'm really afraid that he's just after more power and more money. That's been his only motivation for his whole life. Does he really want to make America better, or just add to his legacy.
Trump considered running in 1987. Entered race in 2000 under Reform party. Considered again in 2003. It's been a bucket list item of his for nearly 30 years.
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The only class that's more arrogant than those billionaire developers is star architects
Oh friend...do not get me started....
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In his mind? He can do both concurrently.
And to him they are probably the same thing.

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I wonder if we will hear about the national debt anymore . . .
The CBO told us before the election what the Trump tax plan would do to the debt.

This will be a test for Mr. Ryan and company, who, after all, actually control the purse strings.

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You nailed it right there. Low intelligence, high charisma.

Also, he appealed to people of average or lower intelligence, because they felt that he was someone like them who made it big, therefore with his leadership, they could too.

Not to mention a fairly strong undercurrent of dislike by the average for the intelligent for their unavoidable air of superiority.

Personally, I want my leaders to be smarter than I am AND have loads of charisma. Most people like that find somewhere other than politics to focus their talent on.
But he started out with money, right? Wasn't his dad wealthy? Do people realize that?

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