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post #106 of 196 (permalink) Old 11-11-2016, 04:18 PM
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Re: How could a "moron" win the Presidency of the United States?

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How do you translate avoiding paying taxes into fiscal policy? I get it might be the genesis for the statement that Mexico would pay for the wall, but it doesn't seem all that practical.

You and I paid for his billion dollar writeoff. Which, if done legally, I cannot fault him for taking. So he may be very good at avoiding taxes.

In my industry, we have two kinds of people. Those who produce new stuff, and those who try to break it (that's their actual role). The ones doing the former are typically not very good at the latter, and vice versa.
Willingness to do anything not otherwise considered illegal. Let's see where that takes us.
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The folks who select a STEM education are learning the basics needed to continue to advance all the technologies that have steadily raised our standard of living.

And - deep sad sigh - the anti education / anti intellectual crowd are often manipulated in a rather toxic manner in matters related to science and technology.



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It's one thing to dropout from poor grades, it's another to dropout becaue you realise how much institutionalised learning is only repeating what others say and aiming for the middle.
Phenomena are created by people who do, then studied by academia. academia is always 5-10 years behind the real front... but they just publish more.
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@ 50% of the people are mad the other 50% are glad nothing new here.
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And to him they are probably the same thing.
And this is how it works:-

He builds a bridge which helps boost commerce in an area and he names the Bridge The Donald Trump Bridge.

Two impacts, both positive.

A bridge built, his ego boosted.


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So you judge a President just by "intelligence"?

Jimmy Carter had a 153 I.Q., and he was a fvcking disaster.

The Simonton IQ polls list the top 10 "smartest" presidents as follows:

1) John Adams - 173
2) T. Jefferson - 160

3) John Kennedy - 158
4) Bill Clinton - 156
5) James Madiosn - 155
6) J. Carter 153
7) Woodrow Wilson 152
8) Teddy Roosevelt 149
9) James Garfield 148
10) Chester Arthur 148

Gerald Ford was lowest at 111.
The vilified G.W. Bush came in at 124.

George Washington father of our country? 130.

How the heck can the "Simonton IQ Polls", come up with an IQ level for people who lived and died about 200+/- years ago?




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Popular vote and electoral college vote elect same candidate as each other = popular vote is redundant.

Popular vote and electoral college vote elect different candidate from one another = popular vote is irrelevant

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@ 50% of the people are mad the other 50% are glad nothing new here.
This completely minimizes what is actually going on here. If any one of the other republicans won (maybe aside from Cruz), you'd be right and there would be no protests and people would be pissed but would deal with it.

Instead, Donald freakin Trump was elected president. His face will be in the back of social study books for all of time. He is playing a role to the policy that shapes America. Even if everything somehow turns out ok, it is still the most ridiculously absurd political choice ever made by the American people. I don't have any issues with many republican philosophies (my stbx is conservative, and our divorce has nothing to do it it). I am just embarrassed that he is who we chose. Or at least, 1/4th of the voting population chose for me.

So, please quit it with the 50 happy 50 angry BS. This is more than that. I hope that his supporters here know that.
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Don't confuse intelligence with wisdom, as it takes the later to lead a nation.

Trump won as the "deplorables" such as myself came out to make sure the wicked witch of D.C. would be unsuccessful.
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This completely minimizes what is actually going on here. If any one of the other republicans won (maybe aside from Cruz), you'd be right and there would be no protests and people would be pissed but would deal with it.

Instead, Donald freakin Trump was elected president. His face will be in the back of social study books for all of time. He is playing a role to the policy that shapes America. Even if everything somehow turns out ok, it is still the most ridiculously absurd political choice ever made by the American people. I don't have any issues with many republican philosophies (my stbx is conservative, and our divorce has nothing to do it it). I am just embarrassed that he is who we chose. Or at least, 1/4th of the voting population chose for me.

So, please quit it with the 50 happy 50 angry BS. This is more than that. I hope that his supporters here know that.
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Money always rises to the top. Since there is a finite supply of wealth, eventually everyone else on the bottom loses. It's ironic that Trump, the master of the casino, is now president, because that is exactly how casinos work.
Don't you have any new propaganda? The old "wealth is static" meme wore out somewhere around the time that the average person in the US had a living standard higher than that of any king in history up to the 18th century.

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What about "Dubya"? He was by far the most downright stupid President we've ever had.
Actually that's Obama.

President Obama Scores 102 On IQ Test, Lowest In Presidential History | Empire News
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This completely minimizes what is actually going on here. If any one of the other republicans won (maybe aside from Cruz), you'd be right and there would be no protests and people would be pissed but would deal with it.

Instead, Donald freakin Trump was elected president. His face will be in the back of social study books for all of time. He is playing a role to the policy that shapes America. Even if everything somehow turns out ok, it is still the most ridiculously absurd political choice ever made by the American people. I don't have any issues with many republican philosophies (my stbx is conservative, and our divorce has nothing to do it it). I am just embarrassed that he is who we chose. Or at least, 1/4th of the voting population chose for me.

So, please quit it with the 50 happy 50 angry BS. This is more than that. I hope that his supporters here know that.
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A year ago President Carter said Cruz was the most dangerous choice among the Republicans. He said Trump was malleable.

It certainly seems like it. He seems to be willing to keep some elements of Obamacare. And Mr. And Mrs. Obama seem to have some influence over the Trumps. I hope that continues.
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So after 8 pages, no one has been able to explain how a "moron" could defeat almost unanimous opposition from virtually every power center in the USA.

That's what I thought.

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So after 8 pages, no one has been able to explain how a "moron" could defeat almost unanimous opposition from virtually every power center in the USA.

That's what I thought.
You postulated something nobody here said and then claimed victory since nobody refuted something nobody here said. Run your victory lap man and high five yourself. Trump isn't a moron, and demfinitely in the educational sense. He's a dangerous SOB and I hope you feel good about yourself for voting for him.
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You postulated something nobody here said and then claimed victory since nobody refuted something nobody here said. Run your victory lap man and high five yourself. Trump isn't a moron, and demfinitely in the educational sense. He's a dangerous SOB and I hope you feel good about yourself for voting for him.
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He could turn out to be an FDR, Herschel, if there is enough goodness in his heart. He has the drive, the expansive personality, if he could summon the will.

Look at the things he has talked about: how bad the Iraq War was (at least he realizes it now), the need to preserve Social Security, the need for a jobs program to rebuild the infrastructure, keeping the best parts of Obamacare. Those are New Deal ideas.

He's sensitive, with a fragile ego. If we can appeal to the better angels of his nature (there have to be some), he could possibly be inspired to use his talents to benefit the whole country.

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So after 8 pages, no one has been able to explain how a "moron" could defeat almost unanimous opposition from virtually every power center in the USA.

That's what I thought.
Never underestimate the power of voters voting against their self interests in large numbers...

Like the Reagan Democrats and NASCAR dads before them, those people are basically multiple groups. The uneducated or undereducated, the ideologically rigid, and the wealthy wannabes among them.

See, Trump won't take away my six figures or my wife's, or our stellar education or 60 years of experience. We'll bounce back. We always do.

The uneducated and undereducated are one plant closing away from fvcked, and still think Trump will save them. Good luck with that.

The ideologically rigid won't listen to reason, as long as their objets d'art are not manhandled. Good luck with that as well.

The most puzzling group to me is the wannabe rich. Those who are an illness or layoff away from ruin but somehow think they'll pull out a stunning financial success if only ACA is repealed and the illegals are turned into rattlesnake food.

It ain't so, people. The Reagan Democrats in the rust belt got fvcked in the 80's, the NASCAR dads saw their meager income stagnate, and the wannabes are always one business success away from heaven. The ideologically rigid are out in cloud nine hugging their objets d'art and wouldn't notice a thousand illegals crossing Lower Wacker drive.

People don't think long term. They want the easy way out. They want a "leader" to blame. Pfeh. I'm 57 and it's Friday night and I'm beginning to dig into MATLAB, since our chief engineer decreed so. FML. Maybe I should call Trump and complain.
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