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post #16 of 245 (permalink) Old 11-15-2016, 08:22 PM
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And how do you know he will screw over anyone?

I wasn't even all for Trump but when I see the behaviour of his opponents I getting happier everyday that he won.


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I don't think the Republicans are going to ram bills through Congress like the Dems did under Obama. There will be time for a national discussion on those bills. Why are you in such a hurry to judge him? What if the media is lying to you about him? Why not give him a fair shake? Ever heard the quote about "wait until you see the whites of their eyes?"
I don't remember a national discussion of cuts to programs like PBS after Republicans took over Congress in 1994. I remember Democrats in Congress being told that there just was not time for discussion.

It is okay to judge people by the actions they take. Trump is hiring people with, for some, an objectionable resume. We can judge that.

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Since you're so enamored of the opinion of Mr Dershowitz you'll have to accept this comment that comes later in the same article too:

"One has to be concerned about any group, right or left, that has widespread appeal to bigots. And I think they have to look in the mirror and ask themselves why. And that’s a legitimate point to make."

The bigots are definitely rejoicing now. Mr. Dershowitz wants the Trumpsters to look in the mirror and ask themselves why their ideas are so appealing to bigots.

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Trump is hiring ppl with question resumes? Hillary doesn't need to hire anyone with a questionable resume. Her's is questionable enough.

How did $17 million disappear from Clinton Foundation?

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Trump is President-Elect now. He won, he's the guy at the top, the buck stops with him, not Hillary Clinton. He is responsible for his decisions and choices, not Hillary Clinton. And he is the one who will be judged for his decisions and actions for the next four years, not Hillary Clinton. He put himself in the position of having his choices evaluated and questioned by virtue of running for office and getting elected. Now that he will be holding a highly visible public office, he is the one who will be under public scrutiny. Trump is the one selecting his transition team, his advisors, and the Cabinet. Hillary Clinton is out hiking and planning her next vacation; she has nothing to do with Trump's choices.

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Damn right he is. Now tell the crybabies that.

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So why do you keep bringing Clinton up now? Are you afraid Trump can't stand up to the judgment and criticism as President-Elect without using Hillary Clinton as some kind of shield, a deflection tactic? That doesn't work anymore - it's all on him now. In this thread, and elsewhere, Trump is being judged for his decision to appoint Bannon as one of his top advisors. Fair game for judgment, as all of his actions and choices will be for the next four years.

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So why do you keep bringing Clinton up now? Are you afraid Trump can't stand up to the judgment and criticism as President-Elect without using Hillary Clinton as some kind of shield, a deflection tactic? That doesn't work anymore - it's all on him now. In this thread, and elsewhere, Trump is being judged for his decision to appoint Bannon as one of his top advisors. Fair game for judgment, as all of his actions and choices will be for the next four years.
Can't stand up to judgement and criticism? He hasn't taken office yet! Bringing Clinton up is to temper her supporters (who think she is a angel from heaven) who haven't even given the man a chance yet. Are they afraid he will succeed and they will have to admit they are wrong?

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Can't stand up to judgement and criticism? He hasn't taken office yet! Bringing Clinton up is to temper her supporters (who think she is a angel from heaven) who haven't even given the man a chance yet. Are they afraid he will succeed and they will have to admit they are wrong?
Yep, to temper those who seem to think that Clinton would have been a perfect choice or something. LOL
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He hasn't taken office yet, but this is a very important time for a new President-Elect because he has to act. He's done with the interview, now he has to show up and do the job and will be evaluated for the job HE does. He's picking the people who will be helping him run the country. He's supposed to be identifying the 3000 people who will be working at the White House right after his inauguration. So his choices are being evaluated and judged by everyone, in the US and around the world, not just by people who voted for Clinton. That scrutiny will continue throughout his Presidency, so Trump and his supporters need to get used to it that people will be paying attention and having opinions on Trump, just like they did about Obama and the Bushes and Clinton and Reagan. Trump doesn't get a free pass from further scrutiny just because he won. He just gets the job of President.


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He hasn't taken office yet, but this is a very important time for a new President-Elect because he has to act. He's done with the interview, now he has to show up and do the job and will be evaluated for the job HE does. He's picking the people who will be helping him run the country. He's supposed to be identifying the 3000 people who will be working at the White House right after his inauguration. So his choices are being evaluated and judged by everyone, in the US and around the world, not just by people who voted for Clinton. That scrutiny will continue throughout his Presidency, so Trump and his supporters need to get used to it that people will be paying attention and having opinions on Trump, just like they did about Obama and the Bushes and Clinton and Reagan. Trump doesn't get a free pass from further scrutiny just because he won. He just gets the job of President.
Of course the above is true. I don't think anyone disagrees with this.

It's just that in these few days after the election we have been dealing with the protests and hate mongers going on and on about how they lost and it was not fair... as though Clinton was/is some kind of demigod who would have done magical wonderful things.

Hopefully Trump will not act like Obama and constantly blame everything on the past administration.
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He hasn't taken office yet, but this is a very important time for a new President-Elect because he has to act. He's done with the interview, now he has to show up and do the job and will be evaluated for the job HE does. He's picking the people who will be helping him run the country. He's supposed to be identifying the 3000 people who will be working at the White House right after his inauguration. So his choices are being evaluated and judged by everyone, in the US and around the world, not just by people who voted for Clinton. That scrutiny will continue throughout his Presidency, so Trump and his supporters need to get used to it that people will be paying attention and having opinions on Trump, just like they did about Obama and the Bushes and Clinton and Reagan. Trump doesn't get a free pass from further scrutiny just because he won. He just gets the job of President.
I have a right to voice my opinion. If I think the objection is silly I will say so. Which is what I am doing here. Whether you want to admit it or not, ppl are still comparing the two (Hill & Trump) even though she lost (thank god) and I will try to show her in a realistic light, not as if she is some crucified Christ who suffered wrong at the hands of evil doers.

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Hate to say it, but the Clintons were defeated and won't be running for public office anymore ~ so now that Trump is totally in charge, and as far as any of the decisions that he now either directly or indirectly makes, his Republican opponents, as well as the Democratic opposition, will hold him totally accountable ~ Bannon-related or not!
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He hasn't taken office yet, but this is a very important time for a new President-Elect because he has to act. He's done with the interview, now he has to show up and do the job and will be evaluated for the job HE does. He's picking the people who will be helping him run the country. He's supposed to be identifying the 3000 people who will be working at the White House right after his inauguration. So his choices are being evaluated and judged by everyone, in the US and around the world, not just by people who voted for Clinton. That scrutiny will continue throughout his Presidency, so Trump and his supporters need to get used to it that people will be paying attention and having opinions on Trump, just like they did about Obama and the Bushes and Clinton and Reagan. Trump doesn't get a free pass from further scrutiny just because he won. He just gets the job of President.
Personally I am not a Trump supporter I am not a detractor either, though I am worried about his temperament. I do think Trump supporters should follow his lead and not give a 5hit what the media says about him. It is very clear to almost everyone that they have a bias against him. Why does anyone who voted for him care what they thing of his picks. The press was never going to like him, they were never going to give him a fair shake so just ignore them when it comes to their opinions. Did Obama care what Fox though of his picks. The only thing that will matter is if he fulfills his promises.

Also lot of this is the press drumming up stories because there is not much else to talk about. This time is like the two weeks before the Superbowl when it comes to politics. The next 6 months are going to be the real show. If you think the press is hard now wait until he deports 3 million people. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth like you have never seen before. It will be stories after stories of families being broken apart. Things of that nature. If you voted for these polices you better grow some thick skin now.

Personally I am enjoying the liberal freekout, I also enjoyed the conservative freekout for the last 8 years, then again I hate the media more then even the two political parties. For all his detractors Obama was a pretty good president. Now it's time to see what Trump can do.
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I don't know much about Bannon but he reminds me of Rush Limbaugh. White middle aged men that are super conservative and use media to spread hate on women and minorities, claiming to be Christian but have been married multiple times.

Why is trump picking these ultra conservative people?
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