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post #31 of 38 (permalink) Old 11-20-2016, 01:15 AM
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Out of curiosity, do you often see people who'd like to get rid of tenure at the Uni level? I ask because I'm not familiar with it. I'm very familiar with people wanting to get rid of it at the primare/secondary level of education though. I think there's a great case for tenure at Uni, due to research and not wanting to have people canned for <wrong-think> or upsetting a politician/lobbyist/corp/local admin.
Of course. Most of the professional staff tends to feel that way, a little out of disgust and a lot out of jealousy. You tend to focus on the easy targets, the 78 year old guy who swings by once a term to teach one class and still makes like 120k. Or course, this same guy built the program from the ground up 40 years earlier, but does that matter now? Well, yes and no.

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I think a lot of the Trump people who want a lobbyist ban like you've described haven't considered the consequences. I know that I would prefer one, even with them. It will perhaps discourage some of the greatest minds from seeking position, but if they were only seeking it for the opportunity to participate in graft, well, I'd say good riddance. I honestly think this is a weak reform; but I don't project my opinions as mainstream.
I think a lot of people, republicans and democrats (but mostly republicans right now since they are initiating the change) haven't considered the consequences. The problem is that everyone feels like they are in the know. That there is difinitive everything. The number of variables associated with even the smallest of policy and changes is way too complicated for the standard voter to know.

It's so simple to say, "My healthcare is skyrocketing and it's Obamacares fault." "There are too many lobbyists, drain the swamp." Hell, "we need to close Guantanamo!"

It goes on both sides and there is one thing I know completely and utterly difinitively, it's that I don't know anything completely and utterly difinitively.

I will say that if you undermine the method that people use to make money, they find other ways to make money. Be careful of what you wish for...you may get it. I think a better method is managing how these people handle becoming lobbyists and whatnot and their access to government officials rather than just to say, none for you for 5 years. You'll find out that they will be doing other, more sketchy stuff to try to get around it and make money.

Never underestimate the drive for someone to make as much money as possible.
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I have no issue with them purging Christie and his ilk.

Christie is a nasty,loud mouth child.....the entire bridge thing was the work of a spoiled, tantrum throwing brat. What a ridiculous thing to blow up your career over.

I don't blame them at all for getting rid of Christie and anyone associated with him.

Now if they'd just purge the narrow minded religious fanatics I might actually become a Trump supporter.
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I have no issue with them purging Christie and his ilk.

Christie is a nasty,loud mouth child.....the entire bridge thing was the work of a spoiled, tantrum throwing brat. What a ridiculous thing to blow up your career over.

I don't blame them at all for getting rid of Christie and anyone associated with him.

Now if they'd just purge the narrow minded religious fanatics I might actually become a Trump supporter.
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It isn't clear that Christie knew anything about it. Did I miss something? It is clear that his inner circle had no problem playing dirty. Christie should be judged for putting this type of person in positions of power.

However, the fact that Christie, a Republican in a heavily Democratic state was able to win the office of governor, take on the unions and win, and balance the budget is impressive. He says what he thinks, he doesn't alter his message according to the situation, and he sticks up for what he believes in. I'd call him abrasive, not childish.
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It isn't clear that Christie knew anything about it. Did I miss something? It is clear that his inner circle had no problem playing dirty. Christie should be judged for putting this type of person in positions of power.

However, the fact that Christie, a Republican in a heavily Democratic state was able to win the office of governor, take on the unions and win, and balance the budget is impressive. He says what he thinks, he doesn't alter his message according to the situation, and he sticks up for what he believes in. I'd call him abrasive, not childish.
Christie either knew all about it or is incredibly incompetent if his staff could orchestrate such a thing without his knowledge. That's like the Wells Fargo CEO claiming he knew nothing about the fake accounts. Is it possible? Sure,but it makes him incredibly incompetent.

As for Republicans getting elected in Democrat places, that usually happens when the Democrat in power gets so corrupt nobody can take it anymore. That's how Giuliani got elected in NYC....think David Dinkins. And NJ has a lot of problems.....high COL, high crime rate and low tax base. It isn't a Republican win so much as a Democrat loss.

The whole bridge thing was a way for him to pay back a mayor who didn't support him. A stupid, petulant way to be a brat after all he'd accomplished. I'm from a family of NY Jews.....I am quite comfortable with abrasive, which many people can probably tell from my posts.

I'm fine with his abrasiveness, just not his petulance.
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Once again the media is lying to you and you believe them. How many times are they going to lie to you before you stop believing them.

Also he is purging lobbyists I think we can all say that is a good thing right? Why is the media making it nefarious.
Because lobbyists buy them lunch and stuff.

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@Herschel you are right. The new health care system made a lot of people rich, including the insurers! Left a lot of American's sucking wind though.

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@Herschel you are right. The new health care system made a lot of people rich, including the insurers! Left a lot of American's sucking wind though.
It absolutely did not make insurers rich.

Insurance is a very poorly understood, heavily regulated industry. How do you suppose forcing insurers to take the sickest patients made them rich?

It never ceases to amaze me how everyone thinks insurers are rolling in money but nobody bats and eye at the drug companies. If anyone is rich in our health care system it's them, and they benefit tremendously from the ACA. The sickest people tend to need a lot of medications, which insurers pay for. The markups on drugs is often enormous.

Insurers are absolutely not rolling in money. Take a look at any insurers balance sheet over a few years.

People have no idea what their health care really costs, thanks to insurance companies.
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My wife works for a large insurance company... Any other commercial concern that operated this inefficiently would be long gone..

The only thing they're good at is to coddle their employees and endlessly review claims... Manually.
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