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She also got 2-3 million votes from illegals. So we need to subtract those out of her numbers.
Can you cite a legitimate source for this?

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I really want to know how many illegals voted. If someone is an illegal immigrant and they voted, they should be deported immediately right alongside the felons.
Um, we are deporting felons? What is wrong with you?

Honestly, I'd love for people who have such hubris to have to be the ones to actually deport the families. Go for it. Sign up, find these families and kick them the **** out. I hope you laugh at them while saying, "America is for AMERICANS, *****!"

I am not saying I am for or against illegal immigrants or that we do or do not have a problem. But the people who were ****ing lucky to have their asses born in America sure are elitists. The America I was born to love is all about humanity and helping those who cannot help themselves. I hope that one day when Trump is out of office, we can find someone who can Make America Great Again.
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She also got 2-3 million votes from illegals. So we need to subtract those out of her numbers.
Wail, lol, fake news.

Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by 'Illegal Aliens'? : snopes.com

Love how people regurgitate stuff here as fact...
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Um, we are deporting felons? What is wrong with you?

Honestly, I'd love for people who have such hubris to have to be the ones to actually deport the families. Go for it. Sign up, find these families and kick them the **** out. I hope you laugh at them while saying, "America is for AMERICANS, *****!"

I am not saying I am for or against illegal immigrants or that we do or do not have a problem. But the people who were ****ing lucky to have their asses born in America sure are elitists. The America I was born to love is all about humanity and helping those who cannot help themselves. I hope that one day when Trump is out of office, we can find someone who can Make America Great Again.
Trump says he wants to deport the illegal felons, but that is to be seen. I'd also want the illegals who voted to be deported as well. Their actions is just a big collective FU to our election laws, and I care not for their weeping and gnashing of teeth. Why should my family and others have to follow the law in coming here and the illegals don't? Either we respect the rule of law or we don't.

This is Jose Antonio Vargas. He's a social justice "reporter" and also an illegal. He flaunts his illegal status on tv regularly. I would pay good money to see him deported today. If Trump was my friend, I'd make that call and ask for a personal favor.

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Wail, lol, fake news.

Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by 'Illegal Aliens'? : snopes.com

Love how people regurgitate stuff here as fact...
Please do not misquote Snopes.

It says unproven. It does not say false.

And there are people who have found the fact checking research work of David Emery somewhat dubious.

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Please do not misquote Snopes.

It says unproven. It does not say false.

And there are people who have found the fact checking research work of David Emery somewhat dubious.

Debunking Snopes.com on @drdrew Pinsky and The Medical Care of Hillary Clinton | Blog#42 | Blog #42
I do think there is some voter fraud, but those numbers just don't make sense to me.

Assuming the most-often figure is correct, that there are around 11-12 million illegal immigrants currently residing in the U.S., that would mean that 20-25% of them found a way to cast a ballot. I'm just not seeing it. MOST illegal immigrants are trying to fly under the radar and would not risk capture and deportation so they could vote for Hillary.

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I do think there is some voter fraud, but those numbers just don't make sense to me.

Assuming the most-often figure is correct, that there are around 11-12 million illegal immigrants currently residing in the U.S., that would mean that 20-25% of them found a way to cast a ballot. I'm just not seeing it. MOST illegal immigrants are trying to fly under the radar and would not risk capture and deportation so they could vote for Hillary.
Unless they had been deluded by the blandishments and the propaganda of the DNC and the Sanctuary City rulers?

"Don't worry! We'll issue you with the IDs that you need to register to vote!

"And you'd better vote for Hillary, because if you don't, evil Donald Trump will have you and your families deported!"

And nobody who is not legally entitled to vote should be allowed to vote, especially if this is allowed by the connivance of political leaders and city council employees within Sanctuary Cities.

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Please do not misquote Snopes.

It says unproven. It does not say false.

And there are people who have found the fact checking research work of David Emery somewhat dubious.

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I didn't misquote snopes. Are you kidding me with unproven doesn't equal false when someone posts it as fact?

Ok, the Invisible Man exists and watches you while you sleep. Snopes only says it's unproven, so, you can't say it's false. If someone makes an allegation, and Snopes says it's unproven, then it's bull**** to claim it as fact.
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Unless they had been deluded by the blandishments and the propaganda of the DNC and the Sanctuary City rulers?

"Don't worry! We'll issue you with the IDs that you need to register to vote!

"And you'd better vote for Hillary, because if you don't, evil Donald Trump will have you and your families deported!"

And nobody who is not legally entitled to vote should be allowed to vote, especially if this is allowed by the connivance of political leaders and city council employees within Sanctuary Cities.
OMG, this never happened. Keep your conspiracy theories to a thread labeled "Random stuff that people make up to try to justify stuff they cannot accept the explanation for." That way, I'll ignore it, naivedave will have a field day thumbing things up and nobody will post Snopes.
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Wail, lol, fake news.

Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by 'Illegal Aliens'? : snopes.com

Love how people regurgitate stuff here as fact...
That's because they don't know the difference between credible news and fake news.


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Can you cite a legitimate source for this?


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I didn't misquote snopes. Are you kidding me with unproven doesn't equal false when someone posts it as fact?

Ok, the Invisible Man exists and watches you while you sleep. Snopes only says it's unproven, so, you can't say it's false. If someone makes an allegation, and Snopes says it's unproven, then it's bull**** to claim it as fact.
Snopes uses "False" "True" and "Unproven."

Unproven means it is neither declared "true" or "false."

If you have a problem with how Snopes classifies material, I think you should take it up with Snopes.

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OMG, this never happened. Keep your conspiracy theories to a thread labeled "Random stuff that people make up to try to justify stuff they cannot accept the explanation for." That way, I'll ignore it, naivedave will have a field day thumbing things up and nobody will post Snopes.
So Sanctuary Cities are not issuing ID documents to illegal immigrants?

That will come as a surprise to them as this is what they have been doing for some time.

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Um, we are deporting felons? What is wrong with you?

Honestly, I'd love for people who have such hubris to have to be the ones to actually deport the families. Go for it. Sign up, find these families and kick them the **** out. I hope you laugh at them while saying, "America is for AMERICANS, *****!"

I am not saying I am for or against illegal immigrants or that we do or do not have a problem. But the people who were ****ing lucky to have their asses born in America sure are elitists. The America I was born to love is all about humanity and helping those who cannot help themselves. I hope that one day when Trump is out of office, we can find someone who can Make America Great Again.
Trump has said that he intends to deport the illegals who have been convicted of violent crimes, drug trafficking, etc deported.. the estimate is 2-3 million.

He then said that they are working on a plan to help the 'dreamers' and people who there brought here as children. And after that the ones who are good, hard working people but here illegally.

Trump has not talked about deporting anyone except the illegals with criminal records.
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OMG, this never happened. Keep your conspiracy theories to a thread labeled "Random stuff that people make up to try to justify stuff they cannot accept the explanation for." That way, I'll ignore it, naivedave will have a field day thumbing things up and nobody will post Snopes.
New Mexico issues driver's licenses to anyone, to include illegal immigrants. Here is all that is needed to register to vote. There is no proof of citizenship needed.

"If you are registering for the first time in New Mexico*and you submit the registration form by mail, then you must submit with the form a copy of (1) a current and valid photo identification; or (2) a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, student identification card or other government document, including identification issued by an Indian nation, tribe or pueblo that shows your name and current address. If you do not submit one of these forms of identification with your mailed-in, first time registration, then you will be required to present one of the forms of identification when voting in person or absentee."

A review of our voter roles found that illegal immigrants were registered to vote. But the state will not do anything to remove them from the voter roles.

One thing that has just changed is that starting this month, NM is no longer issuing DL to illegals. Instead they will get Diver Authorization cards. Finally. The federal gov was going to require that all US citizens living in New Mexico had to have passports in order to enter federal buildings, go on military bases, and travel by air and/or travel out of NM. So that put the pressure on NM to finally do something about the DL mess.

The gov calls this the Real ID. IN all, 26 states issue valid state ID/DL to illegal immigrants. Once they have a DL, they can register to vote.
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