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What college is having a white supremacist speak?

The only thing I can think of is that universities/colleges are supposed to be a place in which people can learn about different points of view. One does not have to like or agree with a point of view to listen to it and to understand where that person/group is coming from. I know that a lot of universities have had known terrorist come and give talks. So I guess some schools allow a wide range of thought to be expressed (we do have free speech in the USA) even if it's very unpopular speech.
By and large I have noted colleges to be overwhelmingly liberal. I get this from both my daughters attending college.

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Maybe the students at that ultra-conservative university is open-minded enough to expose themselves to different points to view, rather than protesting and shouting down the guest speaker simply because they disagree with them, like what many students at liberal universities have done.

I agree with this. Here is a link to a video about this topic.

White supremacist speaks at Texas A&M - CNN Video


One of the people interviewed in the video is the president of the university. He basically says that he finds the white supremacist and his ideas repugnant but he feels that he has to also allow for free speech on his campus. So he, the university president, organized a counter protest. Thus he allowed free speech for two sides of the ideology spectrum.

One of the signs of a well educated, intelligent person, is that they do listen to all sides of an issue. Even if they do not agree with all of it. But seeking to understand and have the knowledge is very important.


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Chip and Joanna Gaines on the fixer upper show under attack for going to a Bible believing church. Why I'm mad? When the country makes Christians out to be villains because they have certain beliefs (aka no gay marriage). So these peoples are considered bad people yet trump our president elect has made fun of mentally challenged people, made sexist remarks, made hateful remarks about Muslim, May or may not be a rapist and people love him.
Not to mention there is a White supremacist giving a lecture at Texas A&M this very second. What is wrong with this world?? Where is God??
THey are considered bad by exactly the same type of person who considers Donald Trump to be bad.

And who is the white supremacist giving a lecture at Texas A&M?

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Richard spencer. The leader is the white nationalist group.
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I am so happy CNN and other news media did not give this guy any air time.
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THey are considered bad by exactly the same type of person who considers Donald Trump to be bad.



And who is the white supremacist giving a lecture at Texas A&M?


I disagree. Trump stands on a platform and says hateful things to millions of people. Chip and Joanna go to church on Sunday and keep their beliefs to theirselves. Not believing in gay marriage doesn't make you a bad personal and it doesn't mean you hate gays. When you gay bash that means you hate gays.
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I am so happy CNN and other news media did not give this guy any air time.
Did you see the link I posted? Apparently CNN did give him some air time in that video.

I read/listen-to thinks from all points of view.

I have listened to some of what that guy says. I have also listened to Farrakhan. I've read some by both of them and the organizations that they represent. Both are despicable hate mongers. Though Richard Spencer packages his nonsense is a softer approach and claims that his point of view is about preserving Western Civilization.

I have also spoken to hundreds of Radical Islamists to get to the point that I understand their word games and their intent.

By reading and listening to points of view that I find repugnant, and by truly understanding where these people are coming from, I believe that I have become much better informed. It actually strengths my convictions that oppose their points of view. It also takes away a lot of their power. The more we truly understand those whose ideas/beliefs we find repugnant, the easier it is to fight them (verbally) and to keep them from growing their ideas and indoctrinating more people.

In trying to prove that Trump is racist, the left-leaning media is creating a false narrative that Trump supports people like Richard Spencer and their organizations. The truth is that Trump does not. He and his campaign denounced them on more than one occasion.

Do you recall that Farrakhan endorsed Obama and even called him the coming of Christ. But after a while, Obama denounced Farrakhan.

It is the left-leaning media that is giving white supremacists air time try to create a false narrative about Trump and the millions who supported Trump. Basically it's a way to indirectly call half the country racist... yet almost no one support Richard Spencer. His little meeting in DC to celebrate Trump's win had about 150 attendees. Yet the press covered it and had stories that made it look like that meeting was a big deal and that it was supported by Trump and those who voted for him... all millions of them.
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I disagree. Trump stands on a platform and says hateful things to millions of people. Chip and Joanna go to church on Sunday and keep their beliefs to theirselves. Not believing in gay marriage doesn't make you a bad personal and it doesn't mean you hate gays. When you gay bash that means you hate gays.
totally unsubstantiated bulloney. You need to step away from MSNBC and get the background on the snippets that the left wing media uses to indict Trump. Virtually all of it is taken totally out of context or put up against a false set of standards.

Not wanting to let people from the middle east in, without proper vetting IS NOT RACIST or discriminating against islam. IT IS COMMON SENSE. Same with securing the border.
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I am so happy CNN and other news media did not give this guy any air time.
CNN=Clinton New Network. Do yourself a favor, stay away for CNN, MSNBC and FOX. Most of this is opinion journalism. Two were blatantly in the tank for Hillary. FOX, although entertaining, is loaded with opinion after opinion. None is hard news.

I watch OAN or One American News. It is the closest I can find to hard news.


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totally unsubstantiated bulloney. You need to step away from MSNBC and get the background on the snippets that the left wing media uses to indict Trump. Virtually all of it is taken totally out of context or put up against a false set of standards.



Not wanting to let people from the middle east in, without proper vetting IS NOT RACIST or discriminating against islam. IT IS COMMON SENSE. Same with securing the border.


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What about calling women fat pigs? What about saying If your a flat chested women at most your a 4? What about saying Mexicans are rapists and drug lords? What about trump making fun of a mentally challenged person? What about saying it's just guy talk to speak about cheating on your wife and saying you just grab women by the p*ssy??
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What about calling women fat pigs? What about saying If your a flat chested women at most your a 4? What about saying Mexicans are rapists and drug lords? What about trump making fun of a mentally challenged person? What about saying it's just guy talk to speak about cheating on your wife and saying you just grab women by the p*ssy??
You stop reading at the headlines, got it.

Trump is gross, I agree. Racist or sexist or islam-aphobe, nah.
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What about calling women fat pigs? What about saying If your a flat chested women at most your a 4? What about saying Mexicans are rapists and drug lords? What about trump making fun of a mentally challenged person? What about saying it's just guy talk to speak about cheating on your wife and saying you just grab women by the p*ssy??


Some women are. And if you pick a fight with someone,
you shouldn't expect to have your ovaries save you from them swinging back
. An attack against a woman is not an attack against all women. Being a woman isn't like being a Musketeer.



The mentally challenged thing has been debunked ad nauseum. He is mocking someone for panicking / responding poorly to questions / criticism.

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Richard spencer. The leader is the white nationalist group.
And we do not want students exposed to the views of such people, right?

Actually, that's not right.

Students need to be exposed to such points of view in a controlled environment, rather than them coming across such views in the wild and accepting them at face value.

Which might be a disaster.

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What about calling women fat pigs? What about saying If your a flat chested women at most your a 4? What about saying Mexicans are rapists and drug lords? What about trump making fun of a mentally challenged person? What about saying it's just guy talk to speak about cheating on your wife and saying you just grab women by the p*ssy??
He did not call all women fat pigs. I've called SOME men fat pigs because they were/are fat pigs. Have you ever called anyone something derogatory?

Most men would agree that flat chested women are at more a 4. In case you have not noticed, most men prefer women with bigger boobs.

Trump did not call all Mexicans rapists and drug trafficers. He has said that we need to do something about he illegal immigrants who are criminals, you know the ones who are rapists, murderers and drug lords. He has also said that he hopes to find a way to get the dreamers a path to citizenship. And he wants to make it so that the good, hardworking illegal immigrants who are here also have a way to get legal work permits and even a path to citizenship for those who want it. Maybe you should listen to some unedited videos that show all of what he said and that do not cut/paste clips together to say something different that the left-media could use to try to get Hillary elected.

Sadly, a fairly large number of people cheat on their spouse. Bill Clinton cheated on his wife too... a lot. And guess what? The Democrats said that a man's personal life has no bearing on his ability to be president of the USA. President Kenney cheated every chance he got. Are you trying to change that standard now? Does this new standard only apply to non-Democrats?

On the topic of the grabbing women by the p*ssy. Well that was a crude comment. But remember that Trump was running against Hillary. Hillary is the woman who trashed and tried to destroy the women her husband raped and cheated with. So, I guess people looked at the two of them and figured that this was canceled out.

The reason Trump was elected was because the Democrats did not deliver what they promised to the average working class voter. People voted for Obama twice. And he failed a huge section of the population. Hillary promised them more of the same... more jobs lost, more of the average income in the USA going down... she promised to destroy their lives even more. She was so out of touch that she just called anyone who was not happy with the way their jobs have been destroyed "The Deplorables". And Obama called them "Bitter Clingers". Why would anyone vote for someone who called them names like this? Someone, and their party, who talked about people in fly over country as people not even worth getting to know their needs?

You act as though Trump is the only one of the two who ran for office that is a flawed human. Hillary is very flawed.. she's done despicable things too. People had two choices. They had to pick one. So a large number picked the one who was promising to fix immigration and bring jobs back to the USA. That makes sense to me.

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