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post #31 of 58 (permalink) Old 12-07-2016, 04:27 PM Thread Starter
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I can't believe people can defend some of his behavior. I'm not saying Trump is a bad person, but some things he says are just not right. It's not ok to rate women based on their looks. It's not ok to call anyone a fat big.
Whether or not we are guilty of this behavior is regardless of the point. I say things I shouldn't all the time and make mistakes. But I don't defend wrong behavior. I can't admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong.
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I can't believe people can defend some of his behavior.
I did not vote for Trump or for Hillary. Actually did not vote for anyone for president. I knew that Hillary would win my state, so why bother of voter for either of the front runners when I did not like either of them.


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I'm not saying Trump is a bad person, but some things he says are just not right.
It sure sounds like you are saying that Trump is a very bad person. If that is not what you are saying, I don't understand why you would have such a strong objection to him.

He does have a mouth on him... listening to him talk is a lot of what happens when you go to dinner with your NY relatives and your very opinionated NY uncle shows up at that dinner. The guys a good guy, but he's got a mouth on him.

My take on it is that a lot of people dismiss a lot of what he said because they knew he was doing it to get attention, he got a lot of free press that way. And a lot of people are tired of the PC rules that some are trying to impose on society for some time now. The PC crap reminds me of the way the Church and also Islam was used to rule... if you dared to say anything that they did not like you might find yourself accused of blasphemy or even apostasy and your fate could be pretty bad. Our society has gotten to the point that it's not far from that. Shoot, in Europe, they do prosecute people for saying non-PC stuff. And many want that here in the USA now. WTH

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It's not ok to rate women based on their looks.
I agree, it's not ok, but it's very common. Have you read the threads on TAM about this topic?

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It's not ok to call anyone a fat big.
I guess he was upset at Rosie O'Donnell.

I disagree that it's not ok to call anyone a fat pig. The guys I called that were indeed fat pigs who deserved distain. On top of that they were fat, in-kept and disgusting.

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Whether or not we are guilty of this behavior is regardless of the point. I say things I shouldn't all the time and make mistakes. But I don't defend wrong behavior. I can't admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong.
You are then a better human than Trump in that regard.
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I can't believe people can defend some of his behavior. I'm not saying Trump is a bad person, but some things he says are just not right. It's not ok to rate women based on their looks. It's not ok to call anyone a fat big.
Whether or not we are guilty of this behavior is regardless of the point. I say things I shouldn't all the time and make mistakes. But I don't defend wrong behavior. I can't admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong.
I think you might have made an error, there.

Unless you really can't admit that you are wrong when you are wrong?

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I can't believe people can defend some of his behavior. I'm not saying Trump is a bad person, but some things he says are just not right. It's not ok to rate women based on their looks. It's not ok to call anyone a fat big.
Whether or not we are guilty of this behavior is regardless of the point. I say things I shouldn't all the time and make mistakes. But I don't defend wrong behavior. I can't admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong.
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Starting my own thread before I just kicked out of another.

Chip and Joanna Gaines on the fixer upper show under attack for going to a Bible believing church. Why I'm mad? When the country makes Christians out to be villains because they have certain beliefs (aka no gay marriage). So these peoples are considered bad people yet trump our president elect has made fun of mentally challenged people, made sexist remarks, made hateful remarks about Muslim, May or may not be a rapist and people love him.
Not to mention there is a White supremacist giving a lecture at Texas A&M this very second. What is wrong with this world?? Where is God??

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Let's be real clear on what went down with Richard Spencer speaking on the campus of Texas A&M.

TAMU didn't invite him and didn't endorse him. A former student, who is arguably even worse than Spencer, rented space from TAMU that is available to be rented out to any member of the public. As a public institution, the university couldn't refuse to rent it based on viewpoint discrimination.

So instead TAMU organized a Unity Rally at Kyle Field, maybe 100 yards away, which was attended by thousands. An additional thousand or so, including my family and I, protested Spencer outside of where he spoke, the Memorial Student Center, not least of all because at least some of us were aware that the MSC is a memorial to the nearly 1000 Aggies who lost their lives fighting fascism in WWII.

Personally, it was a good opportunity to talk to my kids about the evils of fascism, and since some doofus/likely professional protestor not affiliated with A&M saw fit to wave an old USSR flag during the protest, a good opportunity to talk about the evils of communism, there being but a hair's width of difference between the two anyways.

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Most men would agree that flat chested women are at more a 4. In case you have not noticed, most men prefer women with bigger boobs.
I think most men don't rate most women on a scale of 1 to 10. I certainly don't.

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CNN=Clinton New Network. Do yourself a favor, stay away for CNN, MSNBC and FOX. Most of this is opinion journalism. Two were blatantly in the tank for Hillary. FOX, although entertaining, is loaded with opinion after opinion. None is hard news.
I agree except to say FOX doesn't hide shows like Hanity are opinion, unlike CNN. In their election coverage CNN mascaraed advocacy as journalism. I've turned them off.

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god builds teh playground - it is up to humans to run things as they see appropriate. Humans don't want drugs? don't take'em. Humans want to cure cancer, study and fix it.

Don't blame humanities choices on God.
From a Christian perspective, I never understood when they say this God's world. The biblical idea is God gave the world to man, and man through sin gave ownership to Satan. Satan is the king of this "fallen" world from a biblical perspective. This is why Christians believe in a new heaven and a new earth, can't renege on the deal so we gotta have a new one.

From a secular position I think you can boil it down to, life is complicated and some people are crappy.
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I think most men don't rate most women on a scale of 1 to 10. I certainly don't.
They may not rate them but it certainly is a big factor in picking a mate though. Trump is just crass, I am willing to bet at least 75% of all male politicians have said something like this but have just not been stupid enough to say it on camera. I have a lot more problem with the entitlement of the statement then the crassness.

Howard Stern, who is called the King of all Media, worth about 500 million, made a hell of a living off of being crass. I love how everyone is now is SO SHOCKED that men talk this way. Sh!t woman talk this way. They built a whole radio network around his show which was about 50% this. He was the main star of America's Got Talent, a network show. He didn't get there because of his good looks. Now everyone is all upset that someone crass running for president? The KING of all media is crass.

Now people are acting like this is the first time they ever heard anyone say something so awful? I'm sorry but when the culture pays someone 500 million and build a whole network behind a guy whose primary shtick is to say shockingly vulgar things about and to woman. Where the tag for him has basically been "he says what we all think", don't be surprised when eventually you have a lot of people who have no problem voting for a crass person. Don't be surprised when the person who is now our president is a crass person. I think in a lot of ways Trump is a reflection of what our culture has been for a long time. One day there will be a porn-star who will be president. (I am only half joking)

The same people who are now calling him a white supremacist are on a network who employed and will employ him as executive producer (if you have seen the news of late) of a show on their airwaves. My question is why MSNBC's parent network employ and has employed a white supremacist for the last 5 years. Why aren't the fokes on MSNBC quitting their jobs over it. I am sure they would say no one could morally work for Breitbart. Yet they work for a network who one might say is primarily responsible for Trumps rise. Or maybe they don't think Trump IS a white supremacist and they are just calling him that to discredit him.

Sorry but the hypocrisy is just too much.

People see this, this is why lots of people voted for him. There are legitimate criticisms of him, but a lot of the public at this point think the people who made the criticisms are primarily full of crap. It's not the message that got shot down, it's that the people giving the message we're all a bunch of hypocrites. The public stopped listening. Also they really don't think how he acts is a big deal, they listen to shows, laugh at movies, read books, and pay comedians who say stuff like that all the time. They can't get enough of it. This is part of there everyday background noise of their lives. The same media outraged by Trump's lack of refinement and sell this stuff everyday. I don't get why anyone is shocked.

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They may not rate them but it certainly is a big factor in picking a mate though. Trump is just crass, I am willing to bet at least 75% of all male politicians have said something like this but have just not been stupid enough to say it on camera. I have a lot more problem with the entitlement of the statement then the crassness.

Howard Stern, who is called the King of all Media, worth about 500 million, made a hell of a living off of being crass. I love how everyone is now is SO SHOCKED that men talk this way. Sh!t woman talk this way. They built a whole radio network around his show which was about 50% this. He was the main star of America's Got Talent, a network show. He didn't get there because of his good looks. Now everyone is all upset that someone crass running for president? The KING of all media is crass.

Now people are acting like this is the first time they ever heard anyone say something so awful? I'm sorry but when the culture pays someone 500 million and build a whole network behind a guy whose primary shtick is to say shockingly vulgar things about and to woman. Where the tag for him has basically been "he says what we all think", don't be surprised when eventually you have a lot of people who have no problem voting for a crass person. Don't be surprised when the person who is now our president is a crass person. I think in a lot of ways Trump is a reflection of what our culture has been for a long time. One day there will be a porn-star who will be president. (I am only half joking)

The same people who are now calling him a white supremacist are on a network who employed and will employ him as executive producer (if you have seen the news of late) of a show on their airwaves. My question is why MSNBC's parent network employ and has employed a white supremacist for the last 5 years. Why aren't the fokes on MSNBC quitting their jobs over it. I am sure they would say no one could morally work for Breitbart. Yet they work for a network who one might say is primarily responsible for Trumps rise. Or maybe they don't think Trump IS a white supremacist and they are just calling him that to discredit him.

Sorry but the hypocrisy is just too much.

People see this, this is why lots of people voted for him. There are legitimate criticisms of him, but a lot of the public at this point think the people who made the criticisms are primarily full of crap. It's not the message that got shot down, it's that the people giving the message we're all a bunch of hypocrites. The public stopped listening. Also they really don't think how he acts is a big deal, they listen to shows, laugh at movies, read books, and pay comedians who say stuff like that all the time. They can't get enough of it. This is part of there everyday background noise of their lives. The same media outraged by Trump's lack of refinement and sell this stuff everyday. I don't get why anyone is shocked.
No.

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F Elliot Spitzer
F Anthony Weiner

They are an embarassment to all men. Their behavior is not typical. Men who defend any of their behavior say more about themselves. Don't demean my grandfathers, my father, me, my son.

No.

I really don't care about Howard Stern. I don't subscribe to whatever the hell channel he's syndicated on currently. I wasn't allowed to listen to him growing as a teenager. Nobody has to listen to him, and in my opinion, nobody should.

Men who don't respect women have no business in government. The idea that their crassness is somehow normal is repulsive. We should think more of American women than to tolerate it. We should think more of ourselves than to acknowledge it as normal.

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