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post #61 of 66 (permalink) Old 12-13-2016, 01:07 PM
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So FactCheck is too liberal? They include the YouTube clip of the speech so you can match it up to what they printed. How ON EARTH can you reject an actual video clip as being too biased?

In contrast, Republican commercials used the two seconds of BO saying "you didn't build that" over and over without any context at all.

Now I happen to think that BO is wrong on this point though I do get the idea he was trying to present. I just think he greatly overstated it.

Here's the actual clip that you could have googled if FactCheck is "too biased" for you.
Problem here is Obama states, "Someone else made that happen." This is where the entire schlock speech goes off on a tangent. Made what happen? The business created someone else made happen? What BO was getting at with government built internet and infrastructure that as a result of these business owners should somehow pay more taxes. Without those there would be no business's. What did we build infrastructure for? Why commerce and businesses I would imagine. So, BO will now shame people for using these infrastructures to their advantage. The same opportunity for everyone.

The entire speech was utter bunk and BS off the cuff. He should stick to his teleprompter. That is what got him in the White House anyway.


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post #62 of 66 (permalink) Old 12-13-2016, 01:12 PM Thread Starter
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Please, let's get back to the subject of the thread now.

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Please, let's get back to the subject of the thread now.
On it!

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Ok back to the OP. First off, I am completely and totally in favor of free speech. Even to the point of getting banned from this and several other forums for actually exercising mine. Free speech is a great thing! It actually allows the real individual to be exposed. So if this nimrod wants to to say that, she should be free to say whatever. But she should be prepared to suffer the consequences of her actions. I am not saying she should have been fired. But if I were the economic director for a county trying to attract business into my community I would probably have kept my frigging mouth shut as it will and probably has affected other people's decisions to move or expand any business there where they may have to do business with her.
If somebody wants to cut off their nose to spite their face, who am I to complain.
The only caveat to all of this is IF the post was on the official government page or site. Then it is well within the purview of that entity to dismiss anyone who does not mouth the official line (which I would assume does not entail calling the first lady an ape in heels)

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Problem here is Obama states, "Someone else made that happen." This is where the entire schlock speech goes off on a tangent. Made what happen? The business created someone else made happen? What BO was getting at with government built internet and infrastructure that as a result of these business owners should somehow pay more taxes. Without those there would be no business's. What did we build infrastructure for? Why commerce and businesses I would imagine. So, BO will now shame people for using these infrastructures to their advantage. The same opportunity for everyone.

The entire speech was utter bunk and BS off the cuff. He should stick to his teleprompter. That is what got him in the White House anyway.
I don't disagree with you. He was way off the mark.

I do disagree with rejecting FactCheck as a source of info, especially since they had a clip of the speech right there. It showed far more context than any other partisan website.

On the original topic of this thread, I'm surprised when people don't realize: A. How public their online presence really is B. That anything you type in to an electronic device is saved somewhere. C. That their employer would care about how its employees represent themselves. It should be a no-brainer.
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Bernie Sanders, earlier today, on political correctness:

When asked to diagnose why Republican president-elect Donald Trump won the presidency, former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said the public was tired of constantly politically correct rhetoric.

“Obviously, [Trump] said things that created tremendous controversy, offense, in some cases, real genuine pain for some folks, Muslim-Americans in particular. But there’s a sense he was violating some set of manners that shouldn’t exist. What do you make of that?” MSNBC’s Chris Hayes asked Sanders during their townhall Monday night.

“I think he said he will not be politically correct,” Sanders replied. “I think he said some outrageous and painful things, but I think people are tired of the same old politically correct rhetoric, and they believe that he was speaking from his heart and willing to take on everybody.”

Sanders’ definition of political correctness was someone different than its usual meaning. “It means you have a set of talking points which have been poll-tested and focus-group-tested and that’s what you say rather than what’s really going on. And often, what you are not allowed to say are things which offend very powerful people,” he said.

Hayes pushed back, pointing out that most people take “political correctness” to mean the rules policing speech and sensitivity towards minorities, not speaking out against the U.S. trade policy. “When we talk about political correctness, they’re basically just rules about not being a jerk,” he insisted.

“I’ll tell you what else he was doing… he was talking about the media,” Sanders shot back. “Do people here think the media reflects the reality of American society?” The audience jeered in response.


Bernie Sanders: Trump Won Because People Are ?Tired? of ?Politically Correct Rhetoric? | Mediaite

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