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Iím sick of human politics; especially talk about it.

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Lol, winners...
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I guess people were tired of winning so they elected a narcissistic boob.

I was definitely winning for 8 years watching my investments reach 7 figures and watching the economy being saved from almost assured collapse in 2008. How quickly people forget. Or perhaps they had no clue how close to the brink we came and how hard fought the current financial situation has been. This is IN SPITE OF a do nothing congress and GOP that actually was anti-government. Crazy but most are not very financially savvy so maybe that explains things.

Oh well, at least this joke presidency will provide a great deal of amusement and comic relief. The senate is already at odds with trump ha ha


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I guess people were tired of winning so they elected a narcissistic boob.

I was definitely winning for 8 years watching my investments reach 7 figures and watching the economy being saved from almost assured collapse in 2008. How quickly people forget. Or perhaps they had no clue how close to the brink we came and how hard fought the current financial situation has been. This is IN SPITE OF a do nothing congress and GOP that actually was anti-government. Crazy but most are not very financially savvy so maybe that explains things.

Oh well, at least this joke presidency will provide a great deal of amusement and comic relief. The senate is already at odds with trump ha ha
I was having a good year with my investments until the election. Now I'm about even for the year.

But I would much rather have a poor investing year than a lying, corrupt, warmonger for President.

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I was having a good year with my investments until the election. Now I'm about even for the year.

But I would much rather have a poor investing year than a lying, corrupt, warmonger for President.
Do you honestly think that Trump isn't...

Lying? (he has said anything and everything to get elected, despite the fact he knows he can't do half of it and half of the rest he doesn't even want to)

Corrupt? (Do I even have to go here? He will be using this presidency to line his pockets and his billionaire crony pockets)

Warmonger? (Cause he said Iraq was stupid? Wait til WW3 with China starts)

You are blinded by hate my friend. Blinded by bitter hate.
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While I think Trump is more corrupt and far more dangerous than Hillary, I am winning all the way to the bank. My investments are soaring, so I will be as well off or better off than if Hillary won, even if the GOP guts Medicare and Social Security as they intend. Now, I am concerned that environmental law changes may poison the air and water (which could decrease my quality of life and longevity), but I can move if necessary.

Anyway, my candidate didn't win, but I still win. The poor will be the biggest losers, unfortunately for them.

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Lying...

I'll preface this link that I am sure that the conservative cabal here will NOT watch, with this is a clip from the Daily Show. It really isn't talking policy rather than just about Trump admitting he is lying to his base. It's 5 minutes long and I assure you I watch plenty of Hannity and O'Reilly to see what they say. I don't even care if you listen to a word that Noah says, just listen to Trump.

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I was having a good year with my investments until the election. Now I'm about even for the year.

But I would much rather have a poor investing year than a lying, corrupt, warmonger for President.
Lying warmonger describes two of the last three GOP Presidents... Three of four come to think of it...

As far as corrupt, Nixon and Reagan managed to create some decent legal cases; Dubya was all things considered too detached to see what was going on in his own administration...

And conservatives have the nerves to call anyone names?

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Not sure where I saw the survey (Time Magazine, I think) but in general, Trump supporters are less concerned with his truthfulness on any given issue than his attitude in general. They like that he's so pugnacious and un-PC.

I think he actually won the culture war and happened to win the presidency at the same time. He's in the honeymoon phase right now so there's not much to judge him on politically.

It'll be interesting to see what he's able to accomplish in office. He might lose some support if everything goes to hell, but given how loathed HRC was and how diametrically opposed they were on most issues, it will take a lot of screw-ups before his supporters abandon him.
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Not sure where I saw the survey (Time Magazine, I think) but in general, Trump supporters are less concerned with his truthfulness on any given issue than his attitude in general. They like that he's so pugnacious and un-PC.

I think he actually won the culture war and happened to win the presidency at the same time. He's in the honeymoon phase right now so there's not much to judge him on politically.

It'll be interesting to see what he's able to accomplish in office. He might lose some support if everything goes to hell, but given how loathed HRC was and how diametrically opposed they were on most issues, it will take a lot of screw-ups before his supporters abandon him.
hard to argue with your post. I think Trump will try to enhance border security and probably do a decent job and making sure we don't let people in legally who we can't vet. I think he will try to toss out Obama care, but we will be stuck with merely a fix. I will be interested to see where we go re: trade. Getting trade stuff through congress is problematic, at best, for any president. Wait and see, seems to be the best approach. though I would not have any optimism if HRC had won. Any candidate from the establishment would have been a loss to the country, imo.

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Lying warmonger describes two of the last three GOP Presidents... Three of four come to think of it...

As far as corrupt, Nixon and Reagan managed to create some decent legal cases; Dubya was all things considered too detached to see what was going on in his own administration...

And conservatives have the nerves to call anyone names?

Sheesh.
Again, I'm not a Republican, or a conservative.

I agree with you on the former Presidents.

However, Hitlary Clinton is a much worse warmonger than any of them.

Hope that helps.

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I agree with you on the former Presidents.

However, Hitlary Clinton is a much worse warmonger than any of them.

Hope that helps.
And we know she's a warmonger because...

Benghazi?
Vince Foster?
Secret emails with orders to General Dynamics?
Being duped by Colin & Friends like some Democrats and ALL Republicans?



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What I hope is that with Trump and a Republican congress the praise / blame will be clear. Lets see how things are doing in 4 years.

What I don't want to hear in 4 years is one side or the other complaining that what happened was not due to the policies of the republicans, but somehow due to actions by the Democrats.
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What I hope is that with Trump and a Republican congress the praise / blame will be clear. Lets see how things are doing in 4 years.

What I don't want to hear in 4 years is one side or the other complaining that what happened was not due to the policies of the republicans, but somehow due to actions by the Democrats.
What I want to see in four years is nothing to blame or complain about.
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Diplomacy is a complex and delicate game. At its core, it is desgned to prevent major powers from going to war - which with nuclear powers could kill billions and end civilization. So it provides lots of ways that countries can signal their intentions long before there is any risk of war.

In some ways its like the federal reserve: The chairman of the fed doesn't come out and say "I think the economy is screwed for the next few years", that would cause wild market fluctuations. He gives small hints as to the gradually changing probabilities of interest rate changes - and the markets can respond in a gradual way.

The US, China and Taiwan are currently in a situation where no one is killing anyone. Where there is hundreds of billions of dollars of trade. This is to be contrasted with the situation in the 60s where a cross-straight war was a real possibility - a war which would at best have killed a huge number of people can cost the US a vast amount of money, and at worst...

There are issues. China is building bases in the south china sea. China is stealing technology. The US is delivering high-tech products with NSA spyware. Japan is trying to revive some old WW2 island disputes. Some factions in Taiwan are trying to create problems with China to snub other factions.

But despite those issues, we are able to buy low cost Iphones and TVs, cargo ships move through the area unmolested, China and Taiwan are both getting rich off of mutual trade. Boeing is selling vast numbers of airliners to the rapidly growing Chinese airlines. American companies are designing huge buildings in China. In general things are not that bad.

I see no reason to throw out the one-China policy when all we need is to continue our various diplomatic tweaks. They are working.







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