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Are you drawing a correlation between having a bad movie and going bankrupt? Having a bad movie is equivalent to making a bad business deal. That **** happens. Having 6 bankruptcies is like having 6 Razzie Awards or something like that.

However, the funny thing is, I am not even against Trump calling her overrated (other than it makes him look like an immature baby). I mean, in concept, having that many awards, that puts your "value rating" pretty high. Possibly higher than it really should be. She may in fact be the best actress of her time AND overrated at the same time. But that has nothing to do with the juvenile way he posts on Twitter and it is so ridiculously absurd that people eat it up.
Maybe you're not a businessperson, but in RE Development, we usually keep the developments limited to a single, or only a very few properties per "company" or "venture".

So, yes, it's a lot like having a mulitmilion dollar venture go under, thus very similar to a movie flopping.

Actually, wouldn't the fact that her movies generally don't pan out, and her being "the greatest actress of our era" mean she is by definition overrated?

ETA: I presume that moviemaking is done similar to RE Dev, in that they keep these movies in their own "company" under an umbrella or parent company, so that if it flops and the bills can't be paid, they can let the smaller company file bankruptcy without the creditors attaching to the parent company's more substantial assets. Both are very high risk endeavors, so I can't imagine not doing something like that.


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Maybe you're not a businessperson, but in RE Development, we usually keep the developments limited to a single, or only a very few properties per "company" or "venture".

So, yes, it's a lot like having a mulitmilion dollar venture go under, thus very similar to a movie flopping.

Actually, wouldn't the fact that her movies generally don't pan out, and her being "the greatest actress of our era" mean she is by definition overrated?
You can redirect this conversation all you want. I am not claiming she is or is not overrated. I am simply stating that it's absurd to call her excellent 2 years ago and then overrated now unless you are a big baby who has thin skin and lies to hurt others. This isn't about defending her "overratedness", but rather the fact he tweeted it to try to badmouth her and then you drawing a correlation between "liberals" and his bankruptcies and Streep's failed movies. Stop trying to wave your hand to distract. Even if the "liberals" who do this ARE hypocrites, it doesn't change one iota of whether the GD President Elect should be posting this crap on his Twitter feed.
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You can redirect this conversation all you want. I am not claiming she is or is not overrated. I am simply stating that it's absurd to call her excellent 2 years ago and then overrated now unless you are a big baby who has thin skin and lies to hurt others. This isn't about defending her "overratedness", but rather the fact he tweeted it to try to badmouth her and then you drawing a correlation between "liberals" and his bankruptcies and Streep's failed movies. Stop trying to wave your hand to distract. Even if the "liberals" who do this ARE hypocrites, it doesn't change one iota of whether the GD President Elect should be posting this crap on his Twitter feed.
When a person takes a swipe at you, you hit back, or you're a perpetual victim. It's not thin skinned to hit back when someone picks a fight. It's just.

If it you don't want to get hit, don't start fights. .

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When a person takes a swipe at you, you hit back, or you're a perpetual victim. It's not thin skinned to hit back when someone picks a fight. It's just.

If it you don't want to get hit, don't start fights. .
Did Streep say anything? I don't recall her having any sort of reaction to what he said. I think it's most of the rest of the world that is looking at his response and saying, "Geez, really?". This is extremely unpresidential, and I get it that is what a lot of his supporters want. But, I don't think that what they want and what is actually a good thing to do is correlated positively. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I'd like the president of my country to show some reverence for his own position.

And it's absurd to even imply that Trump is a perpetual victim. He does stuff (like mock a disabled reporter), then lies about it, and then has the cajones to "fight back" when called on it. You are defending the bully because he is your bully.
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Did Streep say anything? I don't recall her having any sort of reaction to what he said. I think it's most of the rest of the world that is looking at his response and saying, "Geez, really?". This is extremely unpresidential, and I get it that is what a lot of his supporters want. But, I don't think that what they want and what is actually a good thing to do is correlated positively. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I'd like the president of my country to show some reverence for his own position.

And it's absurd to even imply that Trump is a perpetual victim. He does stuff (like mock a disabled reporter), then lies about it, and then has the cajones to "fight back" when called on it. You are defending the bully because he is your bully.
Streep isn't a victim, she's an aggressor. Trump isn't a victim either. He would be if he sat silently taking it. Instead, he handles it like a man. I am old fashioned, not Victorian. There's nothing noble or manly or even old fashioned about sitting silently while other people besmirch you, but there is something passive and weak in it. And perpetuating the lie that Trump was mocking disabled people for their disabilities is besmirching.

We gave up on Victorian Presidents with the current POTUS. He fires back as well, and has repeatedly responded to such things. I think this is a partisan issue for you Herschel, not a principled one.

Trump should expect to be criticized. Every POTUS (and indeed every public official) should expect it. But that doesn't mean they must ignore it, and never respond to their critics. What's truly horrible about Streep's speech is not that she criticized the PE but that it was completely without any merit, and even went so far as to delve into Liberal Apologetics for Liberal Violence.

What's with the outrage Herschel?

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If he isn't talking about how the media is lying, or attackong someone who doesn't like his tactics, he is self-fellating.

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At some point, his people have to realize he isn't playing Bejeweled in the bathroom and they stop letting him take his Blackberry in there...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
Russia just said the unverified report paid for by political opponents is "A COMPLETE AND TOTAL FABRICATION, UTTER NONSENSE." Very unfair!

So UNFAIR! The Russians are so unfairly maligned and we all need to believe them!

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Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me.Are we living in Nazi Germany?

He's not even president yet and he already invoked Godwin's Law!!!
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At some point, his people have to realize he isn't playing Bejeweled in the bathroom and they stop letting him take his Blackberry in there...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
Russia just said the unverified report paid for by political opponents is "A COMPLETE AND TOTAL FABRICATION, UTTER NONSENSE." Very unfair!

So UNFAIR! The Russians are so unfairly maligned and we all need to believe them!

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Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me.Are we living in Nazi Germany?

He's not even president yet and he already invoked Godwin's Law!!!
I thought the bolded was pretty funny on your part. It invoked the image of 2 aides standing outside of the bathroom door, banging on it with their fists, yelling "Mr Trump! Mr Trump! We know you're not Sh!tting in there! You're Sh!tposting on Twitter! Stop it!!"

I'm curious Herschel, what are your thoughts on the Buzzfeed "Dossier"?

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I thought the bolded was pretty funny on your part. It invoked the image of 2 aides standing outside of the bathroom door, banging on it with their fists, yelling "Mr Trump! Mr Trump! We know you're not Sh!tting in there! You're Sh!tposting on Twitter! Stop it!!"

I'm curious Herschel, what are your thoughts on the Buzzfeed "Dossier"?
What about it? Like, the truthiness of it or if it was just a hoax?

There are obviously conflicting reports. Clearly, if it is true, it's messed up. Do I believe it's true? I believe he has ties to Russia. It wouldn't surprise me if some of it is indicated on his taxes. I don't necessarily believe anything until more information has come out. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but given his actions, his defense of Russia and a lot of what has been leaked, I'd say most signs point to some sort of collaboration. Honestly, I don't give two craps about Trump. I care about the people who voted him in.

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I'm sure Putin would make a better secretary of state that Rex...
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Ok, not a tweet, but amazing none-the-less.

“He shouldn’t have done it and I don’t think he’ll be doing it more,” he said of Putin’s alleged hacking.

We had a long talk in his room, and he assured me, he meant only good by it, and he promised he'll never, ever, EVER do it again.
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 9h9 hours ago
We had a great News Conference at Trump Tower today. A couple of FAKE NEWS organizations were there but the people truly get what's going on

Replace "News Conference" with "party", "Trump Tower" with "my mom's", "FAKE NEWS organizations" with "fat chicks" and you have a tweet from 16 year old Trump.
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 9h9 hours ago
We had a great News Conference at Trump Tower today. A couple of FAKE NEWS organizations were there but the people truly get what's going on

Replace "News Conference" with "party", "Trump Tower" with "my mom's", "FAKE NEWS organizations" with "fat chicks" and you have a tweet from 16 year old Trump.
Again, do not know why you are aging him . . . 13 at the most.

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago
.@CNN is in a total meltdown with their FAKE NEWS because their ratings are tanking since election and their credibility will soon be gone!

Do people not see how damaging this is? Undermining a news outlet that disagrees with you is what FASCIST dictators do. Fox News killed Obama, but he NEVER undermined their credibility. What is this, Nazi Germany? Not yet bro, but wait a week.
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