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Why should he give them the opportunity to attack him if he doesn't need to?



Of course there are a few press outlets that have treated him at least reasonably fairly, e.g., Fox News and Breitbart, but most of the "mainstream media" have decided that he is the enemy, so I don't think it is unreasonable that he treat them the same way.


How ironic that the man who lowered the bar by making personal attacks on everyone who opposed him now feels attacked by reporters asking questions about actual things that affect real people. Are his feelings hurt?

Meanwhile, the people who believed Pizzagate don't see the irony in calling the major news outlets biased. Suck it up buttercups. You're just new versions of the "special snowflakes" that you rail against. "Protect us from the mean questions those people are asking us!"

Pathetic. The new president is actually a whiny little weasel.

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Why should he give them the opportunity to attack him if he doesn't need to?

Of course there are a few press outlets that have treated him at least reasonably fairly, e.g., Fox News and Breitbart, but most of the "mainstream media" have decided that he is the enemy, so I don't think it is unreasonable that he treat them the same way.
It might be wise to set the norm as those who merely attack him will be ignored and only relevant questions will be answered, or only invite Fox News to press events.

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The basis of a responsible government is transparency and that can only be achieved through questioning. No government should ever be allowed to just present its information without an opportunity for the people to ask questions. That's what propaganda is and that's what dictatorships do.

After all the b.s. of the last administration I can't believe anyone thinks more government secrecy is a good thing. Now you're talking about effectively censoring the press because of political views.

Trump is going to have to get used to the idea that he isn't a CEO anymore. He can't fire the people who disagree with him. He's answerable to the people.
There's legitimate questions and just outright attacks. The latter should not have to be answered. Answer questions from those who disagree but not maliciously attack. This has nothing to do with censorship, but just requiring the media to act in a mature and responsible manner which they have failed to do. Ok, their candidate lost, get over it.

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There's legitimate questions and just outright attacks. The latter should not have to be answered. Answer questions from those who disagree but not maliciously attack. This has nothing to do with censorship, but just requiring the media to act in a mature and responsible manner which they have failed to do. Ok, their candidate lost, get over it.


So what's an example of an attack?

"Mr. President. Do you think that the US Intelligence Services are like Nazis?"

The problem is that Trump is the one who compared them to Nazis and now he has to defend that statement because he made it. No one would have asked that question before he tweeted the comment. The Nazis represent the most evil phase in human history.

Why is he making that comparison? It's really important to understand. 350 million people in this country are actually affected by what he says now. This isn't the campaign anymore. His words actually have an effect.

Like it or not, everything the the President says is under a microscope because he wields so much power. The whole world looks to his words for clues about his state of mind and positions on issues.
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And how many "informants" have been prosecuted for the leaked State Department cables?

As for Hillary, exactly what charges were brought against her? What was the indictment?

Ultimately the last Comey gig may have cost her the election. But, I know a thing or two about full text understanding, and any college grad student could easily have gone thru a hard drive or two of emails in a week. It's not like I didn't work on this kind of work 30 years ago as part of - lolz - government funded - research.
1. State Dept Cables... as far as I know there was only 1 informant, Bradley Manning. He is in prison (although the POTUS just commuted his sentence yesterday to be finished in May) for leaking the information.

2. Note that you jump not to whether or not a crime was committed, or that there was evidence, but that she was not prosecuted / indicted. That's exactly what we are complaining about. Go to the FBI's website. They have her dead to rights for several felonies, and their documents say as much. They have chosen not to prosecute (or the Justice Department has).

3. Comey certainly didn't help her in his last announcement before the election. But he didn't exactly have much choice. He had painted himself into a corner, and he now has no friends on the Right or Left, I think. The Right will dislike him for letting her go. The Left will dislike him for pretending at all to represent the law, as they believe they are above it.

RE: going through the hard drive.... that may be the case for a lot of us. It's not how the investigation is required to function, per my understanding of how such things work (I could be mistaken). The way I understand it, an agent must go through each document, and determine if it is questionable on classification. If it is believed to belong to any agency / department, it is sent to them for verification on its status as A) that agency's property and B) classification, which can fall into 1) not classified, 2) classified, 3) classified previously, but now unclassified 4) retroactively classified... etc...

The FBI then takes this response and if it is classified, adds it to evidence...

Yeah, we could do this way faster, but that's the process goes through, or at least that was the way it was explained to me. If that is what it goes through, sifting through 80GB of data can take a long time. In fact, it would be unbelievably manpower intensive.

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1. State Dept Cables... as far as I know there was only 1 informant, Bradley Manning. He is in prison (although the POTUS just commuted his sentence yesterday to be finished in May) for leaking the information.

2. Note that you jump not to whether or not a crime was committed, or that there was evidence, but that she was not prosecuted / indicted. That's exactly what we are complaining about. Go to the FBI's website. They have her dead to rights for several felonies, and their documents say as much. They have chosen not to prosecute (or the Justice Department has).

3. Comey certainly didn't help her in his last announcement before the election. But he didn't exactly have much choice. He had painted himself into a corner, and he now has no friends on the Right or Left, I think. The Right will dislike him for letting her go. The Left will dislike him for pretending at all to represent the law, as they believe they are above it.

RE: going through the hard drive.... that may be the case for a lot of us. It's not how the investigation is required to function, per my understanding of how such things work (I could be mistaken). The way I understand it, an agent must go through each document, and determine if it is questionable on classification. If it is believed to belong to any agency / department, it is sent to them for verification on its status as A) that agency's property and B) classification, which can fall into 1) not classified, 2) classified, 3) classified previously, but now unclassified 4) retroactively classified... etc...

The FBI then takes this response and if it is classified, adds it to evidence...

Yeah, we could do this way faster, but that's the process goes through, or at least that was the way it was explained to me. If that is what it goes through, sifting through 80GB of data can take a long time. In fact, it would be unbelievably manpower intensive.


I think you missed one process. With any individual email it is automatically searched for in the catalog of previously examined emails. If it shows up in the catalog there is no need to examine it. This is the kind of thing that software excels at. Thousands of emails could be searched this way in just a few minutes.

When the last batch of 30K emails which was discovered on Huma Abedin's computer just before the election was examined and cleared in just a couple of days, the computer illiterates were screaming "Cover-up! How could they examine that many emails that quickly?" Actually very easily. Add to that the ability to search for specific character strings in a list and you can easily process 100GB of data pretty quickly.
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It all begins today! I will see you at 11:00 A.M. for the swearing-in. THE MOVEMENT CONTINUES - THE WORK BEGINS!

Oh Donnies, the swearing has been going on for months!
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If you folks are so concerned about Trump winning you should have done something to change the agenda and the focus of the Democratic party. If people ain't buying your company's products, you may need to look at the products rather than blaming the other company that's stealing your customers. Trump did like a lot of successful business people. He saw a need and he filled it. Instead of continuously harping about what the country will become under a Trump presidency, you better hope he's not successful or your heads will explode. Before you scoff, remember the tone a day after Trump announced through about 9pm EST on election night.
In the final analysis, the people most responsible for the Democrat losses:


If you don't embody controversy, what you say will become just another part of the media driven culture of stifling thought and debate about issues.
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If you folks are so concerned about Trump winning you should have done something to change the agenda and the focus of the Democratic party. If people ain't buying your company's products, you may need to look at the products rather than blaming the other company that's stealing your customers. Trump did like a lot of successful business people. He saw a need and he filled it. Instead of continuously harping about what the country will become under a Trump presidency, you better hope he's not successful or your heads will explode. Before you scoff, remember the tone a day after Trump announced through about 9pm EST on election night.
In the final analysis, the people most responsible for the Democrat losses:

I certainly agree that the Dems have to take responsibility for the losses. And Hillary is the person I hold responsible for the presidential loss. It was very selfish of her to have run in the first place.

That said, everyone is going to lose under Trump. He is not a wise leader.

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Just saw the last tweet from the WH, the one with the photo of John Lewis in it.

Barack Obama is the classiest guy ever. Really going to miss him.


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I think you missed one process. With any individual email it is automatically searched for in the catalog of previously examined emails. If it shows up in the catalog there is no need to examine it. This is the kind of thing that software excels at. Thousands of emails could be searched this way in just a few minutes.

When the last batch of 30K emails which was discovered on Huma Abedin's computer just before the election was examined and cleared in just a couple of days, the computer illiterates were screaming "Cover-up! How could they examine that many emails that quickly?" Actually very easily. Add to that the ability to search for specific character strings in a list and you can easily process 100GB of data pretty quickly.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying.

Yes, we can do this. But there are other processes that I have been told are required due to bureaucracy, which I described above. I don't think it's impossible to go through the emails that fast. I think it's impossible if they have to do it the way it was explained to me due to these rules. If they are sifting through more than just emails, it could take a ton more time.

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Signing orders to move forward with the construction of the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines in the Oval Office.

Trump now having oiled pumped DIRECTLY to him!
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Congratulations to @foxNews for being number one in inauguration ratings. They were many times higher than FAKE NEWS @CNN - public is smart!

OMFG, are you kidding me?
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If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible "carnage" going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!

Martial law baby!
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Congratulations to @foxNews for being number one in inauguration ratings. They were many times higher than FAKE NEWS @CNN - public is smart!

OMFG, are you kidding me?
Is this real?

Please repeal the 429th amendment or whatever amendment places term limits on the President. Eight years of this is not enough.

Dateline NBC 2031: President Trump has directed that all US citizens be implanted with 5G capable wireless receivers able to receive traditional Twitter feeds intravenously, as well as upgraded NeuroTwitter high definition nerve stimulation signals. NeuroTwitter will allow US citizens to not only receive text representations of Presidential tweets but also stimulate appropriate neural receptors to trigger pain or pleasure at the President's choice.
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