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post #1 of 75 (permalink) Old 01-21-2017, 10:27 AM Thread Starter
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Who knew the CIA was filled with wussies?

"In an article from McClatchy DC titled “CIA morale plummets as Trump becomes president,” a number of CIA veterans tell the esteemed publication how impossible it is for this grizzled band of spies, manipulators, warmongers and assassins to do their job now that Donald Trump has hurt their feelings.

A former assistant director of central intelligence for analysis and production named Mark Lowenthal told McClatchy that Trump’s asking “Are we living in Nazi Germany?” in a Twitter rant accusing intelligence agencies of leaking falsified stories about him to the public “makes life more dangerous for the United States.”

“It becomes very hard to do good work when the man you’re working for compares you to Nazis,” Lowenthal said.

Uhh, no it doesn’t. I really hope that’s not something people within the CIA are actually saying. These are the people who’ve orchestrated the overthrow of entire governments the world over, who are trained how to kill a man with their bare hands when doing work on the field, and they can’t do their job now because a mean tweet hurt their fee fees? What the hell kinda crap is that? I don’t care if Trump sends out a tweet calling you a stinky poop face, you’re in the freaking CIA. Suck it up, buttercup. "

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post #2 of 75 (permalink) Old 01-21-2017, 10:32 AM
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A lot of the espionage work doesn't involve killing people with your bare hands. Most is random guys working in offices collecting bits of information.

In a large organization you can always find some awful quote. The real problem is that our president has made statements indicating that he doesn't trust his own intelligence services. That is VERY dangerous - because it makes him easier to manipulate by foreign interests.
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A lot of the espionage work doesn't involve killing people with your bare hands. Most is random guys working in offices collecting bits of information.

In a large organization you can always find some awful quote. The real problem is that our president has made statements indicating that he doesn't trust his own intelligence services. That is VERY dangerous - because it makes him easier to manipulate by foreign interests.
No, the reason it makes him more dangerous to the CIA is that he isn't as easy to manipulate by the CIA.

You do know what happened to the last President who seriously challenged the CIA, don't you?

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Then that makes them not wussies.
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Don't act surprised, within the next 6 to 8 weeks, maybe sooner, you'll see moderate to massive purges take place, in departments/agencies such as DOD, Pentagon, DOJ, CIA, NSA and others.

Stay tuned, and fasten your seat belts.
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A lot of the espionage work doesn't involve killing people with your bare hands. Most is random guys working in offices collecting bits of information.

In a large organization you can always find some awful quote. The real problem is that our president has made statements indicating that he doesn't trust his own intelligence services. That is VERY dangeurous - because it makes him easier to manipulate by foreign interests.
It's the same intelligence services that told the President Iraq has WMDs. But now you support them?

Do you really believe the Russian's won the election for Hillary? GMAFB.

How about the FBI NOT arresting Hillary for her careless handing of State Top Secrets. Did the Russians not hack her server?
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I don't know, when you out everything on the line for a country who then elects a pos who questions the foundation on which you do your work, it's understandable that morale drops. It's not like you'll get it. Hell, he said he'd prefer someone who didn't get caught referring to McCain. Your intentional ignorance is unsettling.
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A lot of the espionage work doesn't involve killing people with your bare hands. Most is random guys working in offices collecting bits of information.

In a large organization you can always find some awful quote. The real problem is that our president has made statements indicating that he doesn't trust his own intelligence services. That is VERY dangerous - because it makes him easier to manipulate by foreign interests.
Or he already is and has to undermine his own people. Trump is more Russian than Obama is Kenyan.
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What is the alternative? What is a better source for the president to use to make decisions.

The WMDs were one of many major screw-ups. The NSA hacking was another. I'm OK with the president trying to improve the performance of the intelligence services, but at some level he has to trust them.



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It's the same intelligence services that told the President Iraq has WMDs. But now you support them?

Do you really believe the Russian's won the election for Hillary? GMAFB.

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What is the alternative? What is a better source for the president to use to make decisions.



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No, the reason it makes him more dangerous to the CIA is that he isn't as easy to manipulate by the CIA.

You do know what happened to the last President who seriously challenged the CIA, don't you?
You do not think that Trump is being a thin-skinned wuss who cannot accept that not everything is about him? It is possible to be Generation Snow flake even if he is born more than seventy years ago. Your remarks suggest you think he is being strong, which is cretinous.
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The CIA, like most government agencies has become politicized. Mostly at the top. These top dogs are more interested in their careers than in what is good for the country. And, our last president wanted the intelligence to fit his agenda, and not the other way around. Some of what the analysts wrote and determined was deleted or re-written to please the powers to be.

Trump needs to cut off the heads and put nationalists in these positions. This will take time.
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The farcical report about Trump with prostitutes peeing on a bed in Russia was so beyond the pale, yet factions within DC tried to use it to undermine his Presidency before he was even sworn in. That kind of political attack cannot go unanswered.

Have no misunderstandings about how DC works. The only time politics is not happening is when there is only 1 person in the elevator. While many of the every day office dwellers are trying to do good work, those climbing the ladder always have to play politics. And the higher one goes the dirtier the politics.

The release of that report was not an innocent case of factual error, it was a calculated political dirty trick. Trump has reiterated he will not turn the other cheek.
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Trump needs to cut off the heads and put nationalists in these positions. This will take time.
Nationalists...

Why does the term ring a bell?
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Nationalists...

Why does the term ring a bell?
The NaCa party. Their symbol will be a windmill.
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