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post #16 of 300 (permalink) Old 01-22-2017, 12:17 PM
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Melania is all right with me.





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I haven't seen any photos nor do I care to. Class involves how you act and what you say, not how you look.

Btw, it seems most of you are liberals and therefore Donald and Melania can do no right. Ever. Even if they saved orphan babies from a fire you will criticize.

There you go with your paranoid black and white (not in the racial sense) thinking. You don't have any idea how those who voted against Trump think. It makes you feel better to think that we're all anti-American welfare cheats who vote party line and don't consider issues.

You couldn't be more wrong.
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From who?
I'm wondering this myself...
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Yea, I wonder that too. Still not sure what this thread is about.
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Yea, I wonder that too. Still not sure what this thread is about.
It was supposed to be a funny lead in to a discussion about the Women's March yesterday. Waiting to hear if anyone went, and what they have to say about it.

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I didn't say anything about looks, nor was I thinking about that.

I said class. Read up on the definition.
You conveniently did not respond to the rest of my post which addresses my idea of class
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Considering how many people here are betrayed spouses, I don't see how anyone can support a man who has violated his marital oaths so many times he probably can't remember all their names.

I do feel rather sorry for Melania. It seems pretty obvious he's lost interest in her as anything other than a trophy. And I seriously doubt there was ever love on either side.

Best sign I saw yesterday was TrumpIt StrumpIt DumpIt thought that was cute.

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Considering how many people here are betrayed spouses, I don't see how anyone can support a man who has violated his marital oaths so many times he probably can't remember all their names.

I do feel rather sorry for Melania. It seems pretty obvious he's lost interest in her as anything other than a trophy. And I seriously doubt there was ever love on either side.

Best sign I saw yesterday was TrumpIt StrumpIt DumpIt thought that was cute.
Did you participate in a march, Hellomynameis?

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Also, "Free Melania" was one of the signs held by March participants. I took it to mean that she is held captive by Donald Trump, and they would like to see her liberated. Not sure if there is another meaning?

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Also, "Free Melania" was one of the signs held by March participants. I took it to mean that she is held captive by Donald Trump, and they would like to see her liberated. Not sure if there is another meaning?


Yes, i am sure she is suffering. Just like Moochelle.

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Considering how many people here are betrayed spouses, I don't see how anyone can support a man who has violated his marital oaths so many times he probably can't remember all their names.



I do feel rather sorry for Melania. It seems pretty obvious he's lost interest in her as anything other than a trophy. And I seriously doubt there was ever love on either side.



Best sign I saw yesterday was TrumpIt StrumpIt DumpIt thought that was cute.


How do you know the spouses didn't violate their oaths? Even spouses of wealthy cheat, maybe more than us poor folks.

The dividing line is victimhood. Those that consider themselves victims want the government to provide everything.

Those who take personal responsibility for their lives don't feel that way.

Yes we all support a safety net for the sick, old, handicapped, the truly poor.

TAM is the same way. Lots of us wrap ourselves in the victim blanket. It comforts. But it is no way to live.

Like most of us, Melania can leave at any time and still live a life of luxury most of us can only dream about.

If those protesters would only devote their energy to fixing their own lives instead of holding up the victim signs, their lives would improve.

Their candidate lost. Suck it up. They get another shot in 4 years. We had to endure 8 years of the other guy.

Let's see what the guy does before you cry and claim the world is ending.

Make sure to put your protest picture on FB. Because that will fix the problem. I have relatives that won't talk to anyone who voted for DT. WTF? Get a life.
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It was supposed to be a funny lead in to a discussion about the Women's March yesterday. Waiting to hear if anyone went, and what they have to say about it.
We did not go, though I am not sure why the topic is funny. We had planned to leave about an hour earlier than the normal travel time would require. But by then the highways and street roads were grid locked and the organizers indicated there was no where remaining to park. From all reports of friends who planned better than I indicate it was peaceful and wonderful. Friends and relatives from all over the world participated in the marches in their area except for the one friend who flew in from Africa to attend the DC march.

It marks a beginning despite the notion of some that it is a fruitless symbolic gesture. My support for organizations like Planned Parenthood and the ACLU will continue. I will probably stop writing in Mike Pence's name on my PP donations. The activism at the state house will increase. Most of my other charitable activities will remain unchanged. The day the Muslim registry is enacted, I don't know a single person who does not plan to register, myself included. I hope they don't march me away. I really hope they don't make me wear a head scarf. They seem really uncomfortable. And in this climate they seem like they would be difficult to wear a hat with.

It is about priorities now. I am not 100% certain how actions on my part can have an affect on Trump's disastrous Education Secretary nominee. That the National Endowment for the Arts is once again on the chopping block comes as no surprise. The expenditure is peanuts, but it really seems to piss conservatives off to fund anything useful. But since I have always been a patron of the arts, I am going to let that one go as a lower priority. My daughter and son both are considering returning to their martial arts training in light of an expectation of increased violence against women and LGBT folks. That is their decision though, not mine.

But most importantly my subscriptions to real news sources will increase significantly so that we can discern the ... um ... alternative facts that we are being fed. I wonder if I can use alternative facts on my tax return? I know of a guy who got in trouble with alternative facts on his resume. He got fired! Who knew alternative facts could be so troublesome?

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Did you participate in a march, Hellomynameis?
Not personally. My health is so poor right now I can't even leave my house. However my brother and his wife and 2 teenagers all attended the Seattle March. He says the turnout was incredible and totally peaceful.

I was sorry I couldn't go to the one in Ithaca. Even the mayor was there. Then again we are considered the most liberal city in the US after San Francisco. There were people at the Ithaca event who were already carrying Cuomo 2020 signs. He's already stated that he intends to run.

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I was appalled at some of the speeches eg madonnas and others. I wouldnt go, most were instigated by men hating feminists, and in the west women really have nothing to complain about.
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I was appalled at some of the speeches eg madonnas and others. I wouldnt go, most were instigated by men hating feminists, and in the west women really have nothing to complain about.
Well I will make sure to tell that to my 13 year old who has already beaten back sexual violence. Hell, I will try to remember that the next time I consider my own rapes. Because here in the west, violence against women (or gays or blacks or Muslims or Asians) does not happen! That's telling it straight! I mean grabbing them by the pvssy is just "lover room talk". (My husband has a particular problem with that one.) Just forget the dude who thought it was perfectly reasonably to insert his finger inside my pantyhose on a crowded subway.

I am privileged to know a great many awesome men. They did this wacky thing yesterday. They marched for social justice.

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