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post #16 of 148 (permalink) Old 01-26-2017, 10:16 AM
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I'm still waiting to see any numbers on the assault rates. We need to separate reality (whatever it is) from the deep racism of fearing that dark skinned men will rape our women.

Of course even with numbers, its tricky. Do Muslim men rape at a higher rate that football players? Or politicians for that matter?


It is true that women are treated very badly in some Arabic countries, but not all. Egypt has big problems, Jordan seems mostly OK. There are problems other places as well: there is a lot of discrimination against women in Korea for example.

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Please expand on this. How does being in a higher income bracket prevent a person from being victimized? Would that mean that a rich guy doesn't need to fear being robbed by a poor guy?
When people have money, they can use that money to promote ideas they believe in, and influence lawmakers. Their voices tend to carry more weight than people without money.

Wealthy neighborhoods tend to have less crime than poor neighborhoods. Wealthy people, if they feel the need, can hire bodyguards. People without wealth do not have that option.

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I'm still waiting to see any numbers on the assault rates. We need to separate reality (whatever it is) from the deep racism of fearing that dark skinned men will rape our women.

Of course even with numbers, its tricky. Do Muslim men rape at a higher rate that football players? Or politicians for that matter?


It is true that women are treated very badly in some Arabic countries, but not all. Egypt has big problems, Jordan seems mostly OK. There are problems other places as well: there is a lot of discrimination against women in Korea for example.
https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.re...?client=safari

The report from the BKA federal police showed that migrants from northern Africa, Georgia and Serbia were disproportionately represented among the suspects.

Absolute numbers of crimes committed by Syrians, Afghans and Iraqis - the three biggest groups of asylum seekers in Germany - were high but given the proportion of migrants that they account for, their involvement in crimes was "clearly disproportionately low", the report said.

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I'm still waiting to see any numbers on the assault rates. We need to separate reality (whatever it is) from the deep racism of fearing that dark skinned men will rape our women.

Of course even with numbers, its tricky. Do Muslim men rape at a higher rate that football players? Or politicians for that matter?


It is true that women are treated very badly in some Arabic countries, but not all. Egypt has big problems, Jordan seems mostly OK. There are problems other places as well: there is a lot of discrimination against women in Korea for example.
"Swedish girls Malin and Amanda were on their way to a party on New Year’s Eve when they were assaulted, raped and beaten half to death by four Somali immigrants."

I am of the belief that 1 is too many.

Do Muslim men rape at a higher level than football players...well, let's look at their religious texts to determine their view of women???? Hmmmm can't find many comparisons

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There is no equivalent term for ‘rape’ in the Qur'an. Likewise, there is not a single verse in the Qur'an which even remotely discourages forced sex. In contrast, there are several verses in this book which give the green light to rape and other sexual crimes against women.

Surah an-Nisa discusses lawful and forbidden women for pious Muslims. Before we delve into the particular verse, it should be noted that it is not easy to understand what is being suggested using the verse alone. Therefore, relying on authoritative Tafsirs (Qur'an interpretations) and Sahih (authentic) Hadiths associated with it, are necessary to get the exact picture.

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Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek them from your property, desiring chastity, not fornication. So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due, but if you agree mutually after the requirement (has been determined), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.
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What we see in the beginning of this verse as “forbidden” refers to sexual intercourse. The Qur'an dictates, women already married are forbidden for Muslims except those whom their right hands possess (sex slaves).

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The report from the BKA federal police showed that migrants from northern Africa, Georgia and Serbia were disproportionately represented among the suspects.

Absolute numbers of crimes committed by Syrians, Afghans and Iraqis - the three biggest groups of asylum seekers in Germany - were high but given the proportion of migrants that they account for, their involvement in crimes was "clearly disproportionately low", the report said.
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When people have money, they can use that money to promote ideas they believe in, and influence lawmakers. Their voices tend to carry more weight than people without money.

Wealthy neighborhoods tend to have less crime than poor neighborhoods. Wealthy people, if they feel the need, can hire bodyguards. People without wealth do not have that option.
Ok, I follow you on that. I guess I'm just thinking in the context of the thread that it's likely the average German woman has already surpassed economic parity with the average migrant male, and they're still getting raped. So the money they have is not (so far) doing much good to promote ideas among the offending population.

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1. Use refugee issue to restrict movement within EU
2. Use refugee issue to pull out / break up EU
3. Business opportunity in rebuilt Syria
4. Financially kill off other EU countries using refugee issue

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As it is it makes no sense what they're doing.
Yep...when you look at anything in terms of who profits....things begin to fall into place

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1. Use refugee issue to restrict movement within EU
2. Use refugee issue to pull out / break up EU
3. Business opportunity in rebuilt Syria
4. Financially kill off other EU countries using refugee issue

Etc

As it is it makes no sense what they're doing.
Please consider quoting me if you are responding to me. I would not have seen this but for someone else's having quoted you.

I disagree with your rather cynical views.

I think Merkel thought it would provide needed population for her country, since she knew she could not turn them back anyway. What was Europe going to do, realistically, to stop refugees from pouring into their lands?

The refugees were going to get in. Might as well make the best of it, she likely thought, if Europe were not going to get involved militarily . . .

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Good one.

There's many enclaves of immigrants in America where assimilation simply ain't happening. Regardless of nationality.

Unless, of course, assimilation is code for 'higher income immigrants only'. Which is the case in America at least.

Unfortunately, after a few years once said high income immigrants become citizens, they can invite relatives relatively easily. While we notice the (example) SE Asia physician or engineer with the Lexus, we don't notice he's invited a dozen relatives too, who, after a few years, get green cards. Repeat...
That is highly relevant because of all the crime that is being committed by SE Asian physicians, engineers, and their relatives!
Oh, wait...

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1. Use refugee issue to restrict movement within EU
2. Use refugee issue to pull out / break up EU
3. Business opportunity in rebuilt Syria
4. Financially kill off other EU countries using refugee issue

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As it is it makes no sense what they're doing.
Leftism never makes sense, so there goes that theory.


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As it is it makes no sense what they're doing.
Maybe they were trying to assuage their guilt over Holocaust by taking in refugees.

Problem is, they are more likely in the long run to trigger bigotry and animosity by taking in too many unattached males. They need to restrict immigration to intact families or mothers with children. Unfortunately, the social views of the war-torn areas and the imperatives driving people to flee chaos works against providing the mix of people at the "out" end of the pipeline that the recipient countries would find more acceptable.

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The report from the BKA federal police showed that migrants from northern Africa, Georgia and Serbia were disproportionately represented among the suspects.

Absolute numbers of crimes committed by Syrians, Afghans and Iraqis - the three biggest groups of asylum seekers in Germany - were high but given the proportion of migrants that they account for, their involvement in crimes was "clearly disproportionately low", the report said.
So, this measures involvement in crime among various immigrant populations. How does immigrant crime compare to non-immigrant crime. If Syrians involved in less crime (proportionally) than Serbians but more than non-immigrants, I'm not sure that this would make me all that happy about Syrian immigrants. Now, if Syrians are involved in less crime than native Germans, that would be something else.

Also, are we talking about crime here? or rape?
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When people have money, they can use that money to promote ideas they believe in, and influence lawmakers. Their voices tend to carry more weight than people without money.

Wealthy neighborhoods tend to have less crime than poor neighborhoods. Wealthy people, if they feel the need, can hire bodyguards. People without wealth do not have that option.
In that case, we'll need more than economic parity for women.

They'll need to make as much as a man plus enough to pay for a full-time bodyguard.

Either that or you're saying that men in government could stop rape if they wanted to but just don't care because they're not getting raped (this assumes that they don't care if their wives, daughters, girlfriends, etc. get raped) and that if women were rich enough to make large campaign contributions the legislators would pass the laws that would stop rape.
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Maybe they were trying to assuage their guilt over Holocaust by taking in refugees.

Problem is, they are more likely in the long run to trigger bigotry and animosity by taking in too many unattached males. They need to restrict immigration to intact families or mothers with children. Unfortunately, the social views of the war-torn areas and the imperatives driving people to flee chaos works against providing the mix of people at the "out" end of the pipeline that the recipient countries would find more acceptable.
Soldier aged males......are not refugees. They are traitors to their country and people and slaves to their own fear. While they should be protecting their home, they flee.....they seek protection that should be afforded only the most vulnerable. They should be held to account for their failure to protect their mothers, wives, children, grandparents.

Any country that allows these so called men to infect their countries with the cancerous fear they bring....deserves the disaster they will surely endure.

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In that case, we'll need more than economic parity for women.

They'll need to make as much as a man plus enough to pay for a full-time bodyguard.

Either that or you're saying that men in government could stop rape if they wanted to but just don't care because they're not getting raped (this assumes that they don't care if their wives, daughters, girlfriends, etc. get raped) and that if women were rich enough to make large campaign contributions the legislators would pass the laws that would stop rape.
Laws are simply words written on paper. They offer no protection from anything...they only offer, at best, weak retribution.

When you place your trust in something as weak as words....you forget the reality of the mechanism behind all authority. Authority, Power, Control has always been obtained through the fear of and promise of Violent acts.

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