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So, this measures involvement in crime among various immigrant populations. How does immigrant crime compare to non-immigrant crime. If Syrians involved in less crime (proportionally) than Serbians but more than non-immigrants, I'm not sure that this would make me all that happy about Syrian immigrants. Now, if Syrians are involved in less crime than native Germans, that would be something else.

Also, are we talking about crime here? or rape?
Maybe you could do some research and let us know?




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In that case, we'll need more than economic parity for women.

They'll need to make as much as a man plus enough to pay for a full-time bodyguard.

Either that or you're saying that men in government could stop rape if they wanted to but just don't care because they're not getting raped (this assumes that they don't care if their wives, daughters, girlfriends, etc. get raped) and that if women were rich enough to make large campaign contributions the legislators would pass the laws that would stop rape.
I think we need more women in government. That will surely happen, as women ascend economically.

Laws are one part of it. Education and economic empowerment are surely other parts.

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Maybe you could do some research and let us know?

Totally....It also begs the question...

If there is a chance...that a muslim immigrant could commit rape (or any other crime)...should that immigrant be blocked?

What level of Rape-Risk...is acceptable? The questions stands regardless of the level of rapes committed by citizens...as they are already present and the levels of risk are known.

What about it?

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Good one.

There's many enclaves of immigrants in America where assimilation simply ain't happening. Regardless of nationality.

Unless, of course, assimilation is code for 'higher income immigrants only'. Which is the case in America at least.

Unfortunately, after a few years once said high income immigrants become citizens, they can invite relatives relatively easily. While we notice the (example) SE Asia physician or engineer with the Lexus, we don't notice he's invited a dozen relatives too, who, after a few years, get green cards. Repeat...
the so called American dream works for those who integrate. Not that complicated. You work hard but purposefully don't try to integrate and you won't be as successful, on average. Think of someone trying to succeed in a fortune 500 company who won't learn engish... (not that they would get in the door, but...)

I agree that we should not cherry pick high income/H1B types and we should not just open the door to all the relatives of H1B visa holders.

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I think we need more women in government. That will surely happen, as women ascend economically.

Laws are one part of it. Education and economic empowerment are surely other parts.
Laws?????

"There are at least 5,000 federal criminal laws, with 10,000-300,000 regulations that can be enforced criminally. In fact, our entire criminal code has become a leviathan unto itself. In 2003, there were only 4,000 offences that carried criminal penalties. By 2013, that number had grown by 21 percent to 4,850. The code has become so big, that the Congressional Research Service and the American Bar Association simply do not have enough staff to adequately categorize every law we have on the books."

We've got lots of those....they seem pretty much worthless

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Maybe you could do some research and let us know?

Well, since you posted this response

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The report from the BKA federal police showed that migrants from northern Africa, Georgia and Serbia were disproportionately represented among the suspects.

Absolute numbers of crimes committed by Syrians, Afghans and Iraqis - the three biggest groups of asylum seekers in Germany - were high but given the proportion of migrants that they account for, their involvement in crimes was "clearly disproportionately low", the report said.
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I'm still waiting to see any numbers on the assault rates. We need to separate reality (whatever it is) from the deep racism of fearing that dark skinned men will rape our women.
I kind of thought you were trying to be responsive to the question posed.

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So, this measures involvement in crime among various immigrant populations. How does immigrant crime compare to non-immigrant crime. If Syrians involved in less crime (proportionally) than Serbians but more than non-immigrants, I'm not sure that this would make me all that happy about Syrian immigrants. Now, if Syrians are involved in less crime than native Germans, that would be something else.

Also, are we talking about crime here? or rape?
was meant to determine if your reply was responsive to the question or just some random facts.

Looks like it was just some random facts.

It's not my job to do your research for you.
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Well, since you posted this response



To this question



I kind of thought you were trying to be responsive to the question posed.

My comment.......



was meant to determine if your reply was responsive to the question or just some random facts.

Looks like it was just some random facts.

It's not my job to do your research for you.
Still haven't responded to mine though???

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Laws?????
You seem to be under the impression that politicians passing laws doesn't stop people from doing illegal things.

Also, implicit in the claim that women need political power in order for sexual assault to stop is the idea that men, on their own, without pressure from women, will do nothing to stop sexual assault on their own; as if they didn't have wives, mothers, daughters, sisters, etc, (not that men without them are automatically in favor of assaulting women either).

I find this pretty insulting.

Sure, some small percentage of men commit sexual assault. But the vast majority of men don't. So if it were as easy to stop sexual assault by passing laws, it would already be done.
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You seem to be under the impression that politicians passing laws doesn't stop people from doing illegal things.

Also, implicit in the claim that women need political power in order for sexual assault to stop is the idea that men, on their own, without pressure from women, will do nothing to stop sexual assault on their own; as if they didn't have wives, mothers, daughters, sisters, etc, (not that men without them are automatically in favor of assaulting women either).

I find this pretty insulting.

Sure, some small percentage of men commit sexual assault. But the vast majority of men don't. So if it were as easy to stop sexual assault by passing laws, it would already be done.
I think you misunderstood my point...I find laws to be pretty worthless

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Well, since you posted this response



To this question



I kind of thought you were trying to be responsive to the question posed.

My comment.......



was meant to determine if your reply was responsive to the question or just some random facts.

Looks like it was just some random facts.

It's not my job to do your research for you.
It was uhtred's question, not mine. You are certainly welcome to do whatever research interests you.


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That is highly relevant because of all the crime that is being committed by SE Asian physicians, engineers, and their relatives!
Oh, wait...
I'm waiting.

Every year we admit a Louisville's worth of green carders. I was one decades ago. How many of those are married to citizens or get it thru work? Not a whole lot.

http://www.myvisa.com/Visasage/PRnumber.htm

The rest of the million per year are relatives, asylum, refugee, etc.

What you don't understand is the workflow. Neither me nor my wife have sponsored anyone. Highly unusual. I know compatriots of hers who have their entire families here over a decade. Are they all MD's? Nope. Hoodlums? Nope. But this continues and after a while you're getting the completely skill-less here too. Some are peaceful folk, a lot are not.

Germany etc just got the bottom of the barrel quicker. The smarter ones came out way back then, and moved to America, Canada, or Australia. The not so smarter ones stayed behind and jumped on the opportunity to go West.

I've been to Germany a bunch of times and I'm not a big fan. It's too orderly for my taste....
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the so called American dream works for those who integrate. Not that complicated. You work hard but purposefully don't try to integrate and you won't be as successful, on average. Think of someone trying to succeed in a fortune 500 company who won't learn engish... (not that they would get in the door, but...)

I agree that we should not cherry pick high income/H1B types and we should not just open the door to all the relatives of H1B visa holders.
Good one.

Next to me there's a pair of Indian pharmacists. Not twenty feet from where I stand. They've lived here for a decade, working for a local pharma.

I don't know what they look like. They're never outside their house. All yardwork is outsourced. They do not participate in any activities the HOA holds. Their visitors, even less frequent than ours, are all indians. Their kids never come out to play.

I'm sure they talk to their colleagues at work, but the company is Indian owned I believe.

How well are these guys assimilated?
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Please consider quoting me if you are responding to me. I would not have seen this but for someone else's having quoted you.

I disagree with your rather cynical views.

I think Merkel thought it would provide needed population for her country, since she knew she could not turn them back anyway. What was Europe going to do, realistically, to stop refugees from pouring into their lands?

The refugees were going to get in. Might as well make the best of it, she likely thought, if Europe were not going to get involved militarily . . .
Germany is not Italy or Greece or Spain where refugees can sail in. The border is not too difficult to manage.

Needed population? After absorbing East Germany? I think not.
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Leftism never makes sense, so there goes that theory.
Merkel is the leader of the right-center party in Germany...

https://www.quora.com/Is-Angela-Merk...r-conservative

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Merkel is the leader of the right-center party in Germany...

https://www.quora.com/Is-Angela-Merk...r-conservative

Pity your ideology blocks even basic information seeking
If she is in favor of invasion of her country, she's a worthless piece of crap no matter what the rest of her politics are.

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