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I'm voting for the Ottomans. Far better food plus belly dancing...

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I think you misunderstood my point...I find laws to be pretty worthless
Sorry. I did understand it. I was feigning shock. I'll be less obscure next time.
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Rapists should go straight to the gas chamber... put das rapists into das ofens!! Bah!

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Seriously, deport them or gas them. Preferably the latter.
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Yes that is how most people feel. Its why Syria is the way that it is.

Only its not Christian vs Muslim but Shiite vs Sunni, or between ethnic groups. Each is willing to commit atrocities to stop the atrocities of the other.

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If by miracle I weren't dead, I'd be doing the most heinous things you can imagine JLD. In fact, I doubt you, or most people in the West, could truly envision the atrocities I would commit for my family. (I don't think for a minute I would actually survive it)

Let me put this in your head. If my town were overrun by a bunch of Muslims intent on killing all gays and apostates, and the subjugation or death of all non-believers, I would oppose them. Violently. Quietly if possible.
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Yes that is how most people feel. Its why Syria is the way that it is.

Only its not Christian vs Muslim but Shiite vs Sunni, or between ethnic groups. Each is willing to commit atrocities to stop the atrocities of the other.
Oh, it's Shia vs Sunni alright. With the little Christians being murdered for good measure. Crucified for not converting. Taxed for not converting. Beheaded for not converting. There is no chance for them to win this, and they are probably the only people I understand fleeing--and yet they're not the ones fleeing...

The reason Syria is the way it is, is because Islam is a scourge on mankind. A backwards, barbaric ideology. Violent and intolerant. And because a ton of international and regional powers are interfering, making sure that the conflict continues. Turkey. Iran. Saudi. The US. Russia.

Assad would have brought peace to his people by now, if we didn't keep screwing around, opposing him just because "COLD WAR ISN'T OVER!! SOVIET SCUM!!" Watching what my nation does internationally is honestly confusing.

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Ah, but when the Iran Iraq war dragged on for a decade it was good...
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Rapists should go straight to the gas chamber... put das rapists into das ofens!! Bah!

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Seriously, deport them or gas them. Preferably the latter.
Doesn't Sharia law provided that a thief will have his hand cut off. Since we're talking about Muslim rapist an the desire for Muslims for the application of Sharia law. There you have it on how to deal with rapist.

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How much time have you spent in Islamic majority countries? Over the last few years I've been to Jordan, Turkey, Malaysia, Xinjaing (region, not country), Indonesia. All seemed to be filled with ordinary people. Other than hearing a call to prayer and seeing women in head scarves (and the occasional hijab, or rare niqab) you could be in any country. I've seen on violence, no dislike of Christians. Yes, there are extremists but they are rare, and I've never personally seen any sign of that.

Assad was using chemical weapons on civilian populations. That is a war crime and not acceptable no matter what the situation. Peace but the extermination of the opposition is really peace.










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Oh, it's Shia vs Sunni alright. With the little Christians being murdered for good measure. Crucified for not converting. Taxed for not converting. Beheaded for not converting. There is no chance for them to win this, and they are probably the only people I understand fleeing--and yet they're not the ones fleeing...

The reason Syria is the way it is, is because Islam is a scourge on mankind. A backwards, barbaric ideology. Violent and intolerant. And because a ton of international and regional powers are interfering, making sure that the conflict continues. Turkey. Iran. Saudi. The US. Russia.

Assad would have brought peace to his people by now, if we didn't keep screwing around, opposing him just because "COLD WAR ISN'T OVER!! SOVIET SCUM!!" Watching what my nation does internationally is honestly confusing.
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How much time have you spent in Islamic majority countries? Over the last few years I've been to Jordan, Turkey, Malaysia, Xinjaing (region, not country), Indonesia. All seemed to be filled with ordinary people. Other than hearing a call to prayer and seeing women in head scarves (and the occasional hijab, or rare niqab) you could be in any country. I've seen on violence, no dislike of Christians. Yes, there are extremists but they are rare, and I've never personally seen any sign of that.

Assad was using chemical weapons on civilian populations. That is a war crime and not acceptable no matter what the situation. Peace but the extermination of the opposition is really peace.
None. I've read their books. If you note, I'm criticizing their ideas, not stating that all Muslims actually follow them. Now, if you've not seen the violence inherent in their religion, you must be living in a bubble. Ask yourself, what happens to a Christian proselytizing openly in these countries? Indonesia--from your example--has had serious violence against Christians for decades--the Muslims just call it Jihad.

There are no war crimes. All war is a crime--it is wholesale murder. I've never understood why we expect people to tie their hands behind their backs in a fight, when all it does is protract the conflict, and increase the cost in human life and suffering.

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Sure there is violence, just as there is violence in the US (recent news was that another mosque was burned).

Jordan is a mostly Islamic country, but I was in a town that had a high percentage of Christians and a number of christian churches. No sign of problems, christians and Muslims intermingling, no hostility that I could see. Its like they were normal people.

The locals probably thought my wife and I were christian, and we didn't have any problems whatsoever.

There are horrible Christian writings and some pretty awful stuff in the bible, but most Christians ignore that the way most Muslims ignore the offensive teachings.

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None. I've read their books. If you note, I'm criticizing their ideas, not stating that all Muslims actually follow them. Now, if you've not seen the violence inherent in their religion, you must be living in a bubble. Ask yourself, what happens to a Christian proselytizing openly in these countries? Indonesia--from your example--has had serious violence against Christians for decades--the Muslims just call it Jihad.

There are no war crimes. All war is a crime--it is wholesale murder. I've never understood why we expect people to tie their hands behind their backs in a fight, when all it does is protract the conflict, and increase the cost in human life and suffering.


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Doesn't Sharia law provided that a thief will have his hand cut off. Since we're talking about Muslim rapist an the desire for Muslims for the application of Sharia law. There you have it on how to deal with rapist.
I assume you are being sarcastic?

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Sure there is violence, just as there is violence in the US (recent news was that another mosque was burned).

Jordan is a mostly Islamic country, but I was in a town that had a high percentage of Christians and a number of christian churches. No sign of problems, christians and Muslims intermingling, no hostility that I could see. Its like they were normal people.

The locals probably thought my wife and I were christian, and we didn't have any problems whatsoever.

There are horrible Christian writings and some pretty awful stuff in the bible, but most Christians ignore that the way most Muslims ignore the offensive teachings.
Yes, the average human being regardless of what religion he's raised under doesn't give a crap about religion. It's those that do who are a problem. At the very least the intolerant teachings of Christianity doesn't go past bible bashing, condemning people to hell and ripping families apart, Islam however, is seven centuries outdated following a dead man's code of law designed to promote genocidal expansionism as well as civilising the subhuman pre-Mohammed Arabian culture. They were known for their cruelty, burying their own daughters alive and Mohammed despite his controversial laws today implemented the best compromise possible, sure it's great to attempt to teach basic humanity to a bunch of subhumans, but why the fk is it called a religion of peace? It's wiped out just as many cultures as Christianity, old, ancient civilisations were destroyed by Islam including the once very proud Persian cultures in Iran.

Still, I'll take bible bashers anyday over being woken up early every morning with loudspeakers calling everyone to pray for some imaginary figure. Islam should reform, or be destroyed along with crappy little Christian offshoots like Mormomism, Scientology, DeLevan Satanism and what not. Respect secular law, or be destroyed. Alas, the world is still fking PC as to keep the peace. Reformation took the lives of perhaps millions upon millions but that is the price no one seems to want to pay in the 21st century.
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I assume you are being sarcastic?
Well yes. But if you think about it, we talk about stopping shootings by removing the guns.

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If you look at the past, Christians have done some appalling things too: inquisition, genocide etc.

There are some Islamic countries that are OK, and some like Saudi Arabia which have horrible human rights records.

In the countries that I've visited, people seem to treat Islam the way people in the US treat Christianity - its their religion, but it isn't central to their lives.

Unless you are next to a mosque, the call to prayer isn't very loud, its never bothered me.


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Yes, the average human being regardless of what religion he's raised under doesn't give a crap about religion. It's those that do who are a problem. At the very least the intolerant teachings of Christianity doesn't go past bible bashing, condemning people to hell and ripping families apart, Islam however, is seven centuries outdated following a dead man's code of law designed to promote genocidal expansionism as well as civilising the subhuman pre-Mohammed Arabian culture. They were known for their cruelty, burying their own daughters alive and Mohammed despite his controversial laws today implemented the best compromise possible, sure it's great to attempt to teach basic humanity to a bunch of subhumans, but why the fk is it called a religion of peace? It's wiped out just as many cultures as Christianity, old, ancient civilisations were destroyed by Islam including the once very proud Persian cultures in Iran.

Still, I'll take bible bashers anyday over being woken up early every morning with loudspeakers calling everyone to pray for some imaginary figure. Islam should reform, or be destroyed along with crappy little Christian offshoots like Mormomism, Scientology, DeLevan Satanism and what not. Respect secular law, or be destroyed. Alas, the world is still fking PC as to keep the peace. Reformation took the lives of perhaps millions upon millions but that is the price no one seems to want to pay in the 21st century.
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Christianity has done its share of damage but it has underwent its own reformation and currently operates under modern, humanist, secular law. Islam however in many cases is still in the Mohammeddan era. Put it this way, would you rather your daughter be raised in a Christian or Islamic country? Regardless of your religious affiliations?

Quite frankly I don't like Christianity either, but it doesn't justify rape against non-Christian women like Islam does against non-Muslim women.
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If you look at the past, Christians have done some appalling things too: inquisition, genocide etc.

There are some Islamic countries that are OK, and some like Saudi Arabia which have horrible human rights records.

In the countries that I've visited, people seem to treat Islam the way people in the US treat Christianity - its their religion, but it isn't central to their lives.

Unless you are next to a mosque, the call to prayer isn't very loud, its never bothered me.
This is just absolutely ludicrous. The infamous Spanish (and Portuguese) Inquisition, from Torquemada until its end in the 1800's (over 350 years) put to death less than 4,000 people (and that includes people being put to death in effigy). It was bad. But it was and is tame in comparison.

If you're going to criticize Christianity, criticize the Protestant and Calvinist Reformations, sometimes referred to the Time of the Wars of Religion, which lasted ~125 years. They were bloody and brutal. And even then, it was never an actual part of the Faith itself.

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