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post #1 of 275 (permalink) Old 01-27-2017, 03:05 PM Thread Starter
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If ACA is repealed

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As his first order of business the new President signed an executive order to repeal the ACA.

Here's what this means... even if you are safely covered behind employer-provided insurance, the protections set forth in the ACA (Affordable Care Act), apply to you too. And if those protections are repealed along with the rest (or any part) of the program, you will also be affected.

That means you may be trapped in a job, because your pre-existing condition may mean you will not qualify for new insurance offered by another employer, and the cost of private insurance would be prohibitive. If your employer shuts down, lays you off, or even changes insurers, well, you are out of luck.

The Senate GOP voted this week that they would not require an eventual ACA replacement to protect against discrimination for pre-existing conditions, which was the standard before the ACA.

It means that you (a young adult under the age of 26) or your adult children (over 18) may find yourselves without the protection of insurance, as the Senate GOP voted last night that an eventual ACA replacement will not be required to allow young people to remain on their parents' insurance up to the age of 26.

It means that if you have a high-risk pregnancy, or life-threatening illness such as cancer, you may not be able to afford all the care you need, because you may hit lifetime or annual caps.

If you have an infant born with any kind of severe medical condition, or premature, they may hit their lifetime insurance cap before they are old enough to walk. The Senate GOP voted last night that an eventual ACA replacement program would not be required to prohibit lifetime insurance caps.

It means that if you are a struggling parent who is uninsured or under-insured, you will no longer be able to count on at least your kids getting the routine medical and dental care they need under the Children's Health Insurance Plan (CHIP). The Senate GOP voted that CHIP is not required to be protected by an eventual ACA replacement.

These provisions of the ACA affect everyone in this country, not just those without insurance through their employers.

If you are not okay with these changes, call your representatives and let them know what's important to you. Nothing has been set in stone yet, but our legislators have shown us a map of what they plan to do if constituents don't make their voices heard loud and clear.



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From my readings a lot of ACA will remain. Pre-existing conditions being one of them. The ACA is not going away. It is being hopefully overhauled into a workable program. In it's current state it is failing.

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From my readings a lot of ACA will remain. Pre-existing conditions being one of them. The ACA is not going away. It is being hopefully overhauled into a workable program. In it's current state it is failing.
Can you cite your sources? Are they up to date?

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I am the ED of a non-profit organization that works with a population affected by arguably the most expensive chronic medical condition to manage. The families I work with are terrified. Some of these patients use up to a million dollars of medication per YEAR to manage their condition and the ACA finally gave some relief in regards to insurance because they were now not subject to lifetime caps or PECs. I am very worried about this situation and can only hope that a large population of our country (many diseased states) are not completely left out and disregarded as we move forward.

I want to make sure that families are given the opportunity to work and hold insurance and not depend on state Medicaid programs (which is what many I know did prior to the ACA) unless absolutely necessary. I have been working this week to draft letters and communication to lawmakers stating our stance and the affect on our population if PEC protections and lifetime caps are removed. I think we all have the same goal: healthcare for all who need it. It's just a matter of how we get there.
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It also means, if it ever gets repealed, that those on welfare would not be covered anymore. That would be a good thing. Why should taxpayers get saddled with providing healthcare for those who won't work. It's bad enough there's so much welfare fraud. The ACA was a terrible idea and a horrible way to spend taxpayers dollars.

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Can you cite your sources? Are they up to date?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...lthcare-reform

Understand it is "repeal" and replace. Not repeal and dump the entire system.

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It also means, if it ever gets repealed, that those on welfare would not be covered anymore. That would be a good thing. Why should taxpayers get saddled with providing healthcare for those who won't work. It's bad enough there's so much welfare fraud. The ACA was a terrible idea and a horrible way to spend taxpayers dollars.
IMO if you are in the ACA system you pay something. Even it if is a $1 a month. Contribute SOMETHING.

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Just saw this:
Source? "The Senate GOP voted this week" The vote passed by the full GOP led Senate other than confirmation was the concurrent budget resolution. Or are they referring to the Senate Republican Conference?

Senate Majority Leader McConnell has publically stated "“So we are going to move carefully, in conjunction with the administration, to repeal and replace it with things like Health Savings Accounts, interstate health insurance sales, and high-risk pools at the state level to take care of people who have pre-existing conditions."

House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman has publicly stated “We want to make sure that people with pre-existing conditions continue to get covered. In fact, I’ll introduce a bill next week that will provide and reaffirm that commitment from Republicans.”

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https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...lthcare-reform

Understand it is "repeal" and replace. Not repeal and dump the entire system.
I meant news sources, say recent interviews with Congresspeople. Not a campaign platform.

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It also means, if it ever gets repealed, that those on welfare would not be covered anymore. That would be a good thing. Why should taxpayers get saddled with providing healthcare for those who won't work. It's bad enough there's so much welfare fraud. The ACA was a terrible idea and a horrible way to spend taxpayers dollars.
Because we do not want to see children die from cancer?


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Source? "The Senate GOP voted this week" The vote passed by the full GOP led Senate other than confirmation was the concurrent budget resolution. Or are they referring to the Senate Republican Conference?

Senate Majority Leader McConnell has publically stated "“So we are going to move carefully, in conjunction with the administration, to repeal and replace it with things like Health Savings Accounts, interstate health insurance sales, and high-risk pools at the state level to take care of people who have pre-existing conditions."

House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman has publicly stated “We want to make sure that people with pre-existing conditions continue to get covered. In fact, I’ll introduce a bill next week that will provide and reaffirm that commitment from Republicans.”

They are talking a good game, if you believe them, that's up to you.
I just saw it on Facebook. I do not know the source.

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It also means, if it ever gets repealed, that those on welfare would not be covered anymore. That would be a good thing. Why should taxpayers get saddled with providing healthcare for those who won't work. It's bad enough there's so much welfare fraud. The ACA was a terrible idea and a horrible way to spend taxpayers dollars.
People on welfare often had jobs before they got on welfare. They often have paid into the system for many years. Just because they're not paying in at that moment doesn't mean they haven't contributed to the system or won't contribute in the future. Factor in that many people lose their jobs because of injury or sickness, poor health may be why they ended up on welfare in the first place.

Denying welfare recipients healthcare is sure to make the problem worse. What is going to happen to someone who's sick and can't get care? They're going to get more sick and less able to work.
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I just saw it on Facebook. I do not know the source.
So it must be true



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So it must be true
That is why I am asking here, Charlie. I thought maybe someone else could confirm or deny, with sources.

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That is why I am asking here, Charlie. I thought maybe someone else could confirm or deny, with sources.
First, congress passed a budget resolution to defund aspects of the ACA that are directly funded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.ab6842574f95


Second, The President issued an executive order to undo items that are not statutory.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.f9d827218f56


Third, the process is not over because only congress and change the law and there is not agreement yet on what should be done.

For someone that home schools you should really keep up with the news and learn how to use google.

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