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post #16 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-17-2017, 10:34 AM Thread Starter
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Excellent point. I think I've blocked out so much of what has been going on in politics that I forgot how many people Trump has attacked over and over. It's tough to keep up with the long list of folks who have been at the receiving end of his attacks throughout the years.


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^all the people and organizations trump has insulted on twitter since announcing his run for presidency. 307!!


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He told everyone for years that Obama was not an American citizen... and he wants to talk about fake news??
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Exactly. That's what media does. Media attacked Obama too. Trump attacked Obama for years. But Obama was able to stay on task and stay focus on the issues. Not get into this thing about himself.
The media didn't attack Obama nearly as much as they attack Trump. He's was their liberal spokesperson/president. Yeah he stayed on task and focused on getting farther us into debt with Obamacare and screwing up international politics.
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The media didn't attack Obama nearly as much as they attack Trump. He's was their liberal spokesperson/president. Yeah he stayed on task and focused on getting farther us into debt with Obamacare and screwing up international politics.
Sure they did, but remember Obama was always called soft. So, he didn't feed into it like Trump does and it moved into the Alt-Right and Fox arena.
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The media didn't attack Obama nearly as much as they attack Trump. He's was their liberal spokesperson/president. Yeah he stayed on task and focused on getting farther us into debt with Obamacare and screwing up international politics.



Trump gives the media a lot of ammo to work with.
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Trump gives the media a lot of ammo to work with.
Yeah, because he's not liberal and won't play to their liberal agenda. If he appointed a liberal cabinet, let Muslims and other "refugees" continue to pour into the country sapping our resources and reducing our national security, appointed a liberal judge to replace Scalia and left Obama Care alone the media won't have a thing to complain about...well they would find something just because Trump isn't a liberal like they are.
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He told everyone for years that Obama was not an American citizen... and he wants to talk about fake news??
Obama was born in Africa and there are birth certificates to prove it.
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Yeah, because he's not liberal and won't play to their liberal agenda. If he appointed a liberal cabinet, let Muslims and other "refugees" continue to pour into the country sapping our resources and reducing our national security, appointed a liberal judge to replace Scalia and left Obama Care alone the media won't have a thing to complain about...well they would find something just because Trump isn't a liberal like they are.


Your missing the point of my thread. It's not to debate trump and Obama. I don't want o bash trump vs Obama. I wanted to discus how he communicates. And how he gets defensive and doesn't stick to the issue at hand. You cant blame everything on the media.
There is no reason why trump cant take a simple question and answer it and address the issue like a normal human being that communicates effectively and addresses issues effectively.
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It's interesting because this is what I'm talking about. Trumps inability to stay on task and address the issue at hand. Instead he throws random things out there to distract everyone and then he changes the conversation and never has to address the issue.
I'm honestly not trying to get in a bashing contest but I find it very interesting this communication/ distraction thing because I'm seeing it more and more in people. Even @jb02157 is doing it which is ironic. And I notice my husband does it all the time and he's not aware of it.
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Your missing the point of my thread. It's not to debate trump and Obama. I don't want o bash trump vs Obama. I wanted to discus how he communicates. And how he gets defensive and doesn't stick to the issue at hand. You cant blame everything on the media.
There is no reason why trump cant take a simple question and answer it and address the issue like a normal human being that communicates effectively and addresses issues effectively.
I think I already answered this. If you were the President and the media did nothing but relentlessly attack you day and night, wouldn't you be a little sick of it to ... to the point of maybe even misconstruing something that wasn't an attack as just another wayward attack by the media?

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I think I already answered this. If you were the President and the media did nothing but relentlessly attack you day and night, wouldn't you be a little sick of it to ... to the point of maybe even misconstruing something that wasn't an attack as just another wayward attack by the media?


No this didn't answer my question. You are brining in the media which doesn't have to do with anything and that's my point.
That Jewish man has nothing to do with the media and "fake news". The Jew was trying to address something which is normal at the meetings... and trump completely didn't listen to anything the guy said. Like at all. Like it was very strange how offended he got because he was so certain that this Jew was calling him an anti-Semite which didn't happen. Like isn't that weird?
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Yea but is that ok? @jb02156
How can he he an effective president if what he interprets what people are saying to him completely wrong?
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We live in a world where critical thinking is not practiced. Instead of looking at reality and making a determination of the situation on their own, many people simply default to the opinion of the echo chamber they live in. Hence, "conservatives" tend to believe anything coming from their own "conservative" bubble. The same holds true for liberals. Trump took a series of focus group tested sound bites and sold his "agenda" using superlatives and Non-PC language, which played well to "conservatives". Hence they are more likely to support him, no matter what reality says about him and his lack of any real guiding principles. Of course the same was true for liberals and Hillary Clinton.

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I just find it very interesting. From a communication, psychological, relationship point of view. I don't even want to get into politics, I was just using trump as an example because he fits a perfect example I can work off of.

I don't know if it's cognitive dissociation, being unaware and purposely oblivious, s defensive mechanism or what. But what I say and what you hear are two different things.
I would love to hear from other people about this communication pattern. (Not about trump in particular).
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Who attacked him? This man was asking a question. If anything Trump attacked the Jew... telling him to be quite, sit down, and then to proceed not to address the issue and call it a disgusting question.

The media has nothing to do with that Jewish man, they are 2 separate things.
Do you know who the 'Jew' was? He is a reporter for a Jewish magazine. The fact that the man was a 'Jew' is irrelevant. The man works in media as a reporter.

Trump asked the room if anyone had a SIMPLE question. The reporter raised his hand and began to ask his question, which turned out NOT to be a 'simple' question. The reporter KNEW his question wasn't a simple question BEFORE he even raised his hand. Trump addressed the reporter's question as not being 'simple', basically ignoring what Trump requested. The reporter didn't respect what Trump asked of EVERYONE in the room...

By the way...when Trump called out the reporter for what he did, the reporter did not DENY that his question wasn't 'simple'.

...which is WHY Trump told the reporter to be quiet and sit down.

The media is notorious for pushing their own agenda. Trump has acknowledged that not ALL people in the media are 'pushy', but many are. It's how they get their stories. To many of them, it doesn't matter if they're being pushy, arrogant, selfish, invading your privacy or even making stuff up.

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