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post #31 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-17-2017, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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Do you know who the 'Jew' was? He is a reporter for a Jewish magazine. The fact that the man was a 'Jew' is irrelevant. The man works in media as a reporter.



Trump asked the room if anyone had a SIMPLE question. The reporter raised his hand and began to ask his question, which turned out NOT to be a 'simple' question. The reporter KNEW his question wasn't a simple question BEFORE he even raised his hand. Trump addressed the reporter's question as not being 'simple', basically ignoring what Trump requested. The reporter didn't respect what Trump asked of EVERYONE in the room...



By the way...when Trump called out the reporter for what he did, the reporter did not DENY that his question wasn't 'simple'.



...which is WHY Trump told the reporter to be quiet and sit down.



The media is notorious for pushing their own agenda. Trump has acknowledged that not ALL people in the media are 'pushy', but many are. It's how they get their stories. To many of them, it doesn't matter if they're being pushy, arrogant, selfish, invading your privacy or even making stuff up.


What's a simple question? What's 1 +1? I mean come on. They all come there to ask questions and address things. He wanted to know what can be done about the increasing threats to the Jewish community? I mean it's not that complex. All trump has to do is be like... I'm aware of the increase in threats that are going on. That is one of the many things I intend to address. The threats are being tracked by the blah blah ( I don't know who does that). I mean he has to give a normal answer... that's what politicians do. Not get offended by the question, make it about him being an anti-Semite to make the person asking the question look bad.

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Forget what he says or doesn't say. When Trump is Trump I despise his style and how he says things. Everything from his tone, inflection and cadence to his word choices to his hand gestures.

He could be talking about puppies and I'd still cringe. My puppies are amazing. They are terrific. Those other puppies are so overrated, in fact they are terrible, such low-energy. Mine, terrific, they are so great. Fantastic. You don't think so? You're a loser.



Sigh, my wife gives me the speaking treatment.
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What's a simple question? What's 1 +1? I mean come on. They all come there to ask questions and address things.
Yes, they do. But have you ever really listened to the questions many of these reporters ask? They often ramble on before they even GET to the question. They often ask MORE than one question as a 'compound' question. They often several questions having nothing to do with each other, and they're often not very clear about what they're asking.

When the President calls for a news conference, there is a limited amount of time. That means that there's a limited time to ask questions and to render answers. Some of these conferences have hundreds of reports, while others have less than 50. Some of the questions may seem simple to answer, but would in fact, take much more time to answer than the reporter realizes. After all, the President knows quite a bit more about the subject at hand than most of the reporters. Plus, some of the answers may get into the realm of national security, which would, of course, prompt MORE questions and on and on and on.

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He wanted to know what can be done about the increasing threats to the Jewish community? I mean it's not that complex. All trump has to do is be like... I'm aware of the increase in threats that are going on. That is one of the many things I intend to address. The threats are being tracked by the blah blah ( I don't know who does that). I mean he has to give a normal answer... that's what politicians do.
Trump is NOT a politician. That's WHY he was elected. The answer you suggested by the way, doesn't answer the question!

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Not get offended by the question, make it about him being an anti-Semite to make the person asking the question look bad.
Trump wasn't offended by the question as much as he was ticked-off by the reporter ignoring his request to ask a simple question.

Sometimes, ya gotta read between the lines.
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Forget what he says or doesn't say. When Trump is Trump I despise his style and how he says things. Everything from his tone, inflection and cadence to his word choices to his hand gestures.

He could be talking about puppies and I'd still cringe. My puppies are amazing. They are terrific. Those other puppies are so overrated, in fact they are terrible, such low-energy. Mine, terrific, they are so great. Fantastic. You don't think so? You're a loser.
ROFL omg I'm dying that is so spot on it's insane!
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Yes, they do. But have you ever really listened to the questions many of these reporters ask? They often ramble on before they even GET to the question. They often ask MORE than one question as a 'compound' question. They often several questions having nothing to do with each other, and they're often not very clear about what they're asking.



When the President calls for a news conference, there is a limited amount of time. That means that there's a limited time to ask questions and to render answers. Some of these conferences have hundreds of reports, while others have less than 50. Some of the questions may seem simple to answer, but would in fact, take much more time to answer than the reporter realizes. After all, the President knows quite a bit more about the subject at hand than most of the reporters. Plus, some of the answers may get into the realm of national security, which would, of course, prompt MORE questions and on and on and on.







Trump is NOT a politician. That's WHY he was elected. The answer you suggested by the way, doesn't answer the question!







Trump wasn't offended by the question as much as he was ticked-off by the reporter ignoring his request to ask a simple question.



Sometimes, ya gotta read between the lines.


Trump was 100% offended. If he wasn't then he wouldn't have to spend time DEFENDING himself on how he is not racist or an anti-Semite.
Your missing the point completely. The question that man asked, is NOT what trump heard.

That man first said... we do NOT think your against Jews. And all trump heard was, your against Jews. It's crazy.

Trump didn't answer the question either. Not only did he not answer the question, he didn't understand the question which is my problem.
You don't have to have an answer for every question. But some acknowledgement of what the question is addressing is important. Oh theres increasing threats to Jews? I'll look into that more. NOT... I am the least racist person out there! Like what are you even talking about? Nobody said anything about that. It's CRAZY.
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Forget what he says or doesn't say. When Trump is Trump I despise his style and how he says things. Everything from his tone, inflection and cadence to his word choices to his hand gestures.

He could be talking about puppies and I'd still cringe. My puppies are amazing. They are terrific. Those other puppies are so overrated, in fact they are terrible, such low-energy. Mine, terrific, they are so great. Fantastic. You don't think so? You're a loser.
You didn't say "very, very" and left out all of the exclamation points. Because whatever the walking sound bite has to say is more important and more truthful than anything anybody has to say

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You need to understand... We are seeing an unprecedented lapse in critical thinking. It's as if the unexpected win gave the Faithful a pass in using logic.

I have a conservative American friend who has been reanimated on Facebook. He is defending the ban, never mind his wife is from one of the banned countries, never mind he was there for the first time in 20 years of marriage last fall, and never mind he himself would be questioned ad infinitum because his American passport has a visa from one of the seven... Now his wife's family can't come for a visit, and he is daily on Facebook defending the ban.

Amazing...
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You need to understand... We are seeing an unprecedented lapse in critical thinking. It's as if the unexpected win gave the Faithful a pass in using logic.

I have a conservative American friend who has been reanimated on Facebook. He is defending the ban, never mind his wife is from one of the banned countries, never mind he was there for the first time in 20 years of marriage last fall, and never mind he himself would be questioned ad infinitum because his American passport has a visa from one of the seven... Now his wife's family can't come for a visit, and he is daily on Facebook defending the ban.

Amazing...
Yes indeed. I am amazed at how forgetful my "conservative" friends are. They are incensed beyond belief that anyone (read liberal) would say something like "He isn't my President". How utterly unpatriotic! But Sean Hannity went on national TV and said the same thing about Obama. They can't understand what liberals are so afraid, after cowering in fear for eight years that Obama was coming to take their guns. Critical thinking has gone by the way side in our highly partisan world of sound bites and echo chambers. FTR, many of the liberals I know are equally whacked out about Trump. All in all it rather comical to see.

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I have never agreed 100% with a president. I don't agree with everything the democrats believe, I don't agree with everything the republicans believe. That's usually normal. I would like to be able to have a conversation about the pros and cons of trump but it quickly turns ugly.
I think trump is doing a great job keeping jobs here and bringing jobs back. I think he's a little nutty how he speaks and it makes me nervous.
I have a problem with this...your either with us or against us phenomenon. Like you have to defend trump entirely, support everything he says, and never utter anything against him or else your against us. It's really dividing this country. Those liberals and us. Or whatever. I mean it's ok to admit that the president can do something better and isn't good at something and still like him and want him to succeed.
There is a group of trump supporters who like follow him around supporting him like he's God and if I speak negatively about him I get crucified. Relaxxxxx people. These "faithful followers" scare me. It's like he can't say anything wrong and he will be supported no matter what. It's scary.
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I belong to this other group and it's basically a group of fanatic conservatives that post the most craziest things, racist, homophobic crazy things and they talk about the liberal agenda, the gay agenda and it's crazy. They think liberals are the devil. And these people call themselves Christian. It blows my mind how much hate some people have toward others.

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It's kinda funny watching them. They make Rush Limbaugh look like a moderate. Talk radio is infested with alt right personalities that make Art Bell sound reasonable...
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You need to understand... We are seeing an unprecedented lapse in critical thinking. It's as if the unexpected win gave the Faithful a pass in using logic.

I have a conservative American friend who has been reanimated on Facebook. He is defending the ban, never mind his wife is from one of the banned countries, never mind he was there for the first time in 20 years of marriage last fall, and never mind he himself would be questioned ad infinitum because his American passport has a visa from one of the seven... Now his wife's family can't come for a visit, and he is daily on Facebook defending the ban.

Amazing...

Maybe your friend is glad that his inlaws cannot for visit for some time.
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I have never agreed 100% with a president. I don't agree with everything the democrats believe, I don't agree with everything the republicans believe. That's usually normal. I would like to be able to have a conversation about the pros and cons of trump but it quickly turns ugly.

I think trump is doing a great job keeping jobs here and bringing jobs back. I think he's a little nutty how he speaks and it makes me nervous. .
I agree with the above.
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I have a problem with this...your either with us or against us phenomenon. Like you have to defend trump entirely, support everything he says, and never utter anything against him or else your against us. It's really dividing this country. Those liberals and us. Or whatever. I mean it's ok to admit that the president can do something better and isn't good at something and still like him and want him to succeed.

There is a group of trump supporters who like follow him around supporting him like he's God and if I speak negatively about him I get crucified. Relaxxxxx people. These "faithful followers" scare me. It's like he can't say anything wrong and he will be supported no matter what. It's scary.
I agree that many Trump supporters act as you describe.

But.. I also see a large segment of those who do not support Trump taking a similar approach against him. It seems that a large percentage of people want Trump to fail and they are hell bent on making this happens.

We have to do what is best for our country. What is best for our country is that every president does a lot more good than harm. And we really should support the president in a manner that allows that to happen.
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I belong to this other group and it's basically a group of fanatic conservatives that post the most craziest things, racist, homophobic crazy things and they talk about the liberal agenda, the gay agenda and it's crazy. They think liberals are the devil. And these people call themselves Christian. It blows my mind how much hate some people have toward others.
Take any crazy viewpoint that you can think of and you will find a group on the internet that supports them.

The vast majority of people are in the middle and not crazy.
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I think trump is doing a great job keeping jobs here and bringing jobs back.
Trump has not been President long enough to keep or bring jobs back to this country. The laws have not changed at all since he has been President.
The much heralded Carrier deal was a drop in the bucket, and relied on tax abatements and other incentives from the state to entice Carrier to stay. Now all any company is going to have to do is threaten to move jobs and then sit back and negotiate a better deal at the tax payers expense.


I have a problem with this...your either with us or against us phenomenon. .
This has gotten ingrained into our society. It leads to a lot of closed minded binary thinking. We see it all the time here on TAM. "If you don't agree with me 100%, you must agree with the polar opposite idea then" It results in a lot of argumentum ad absurdum posts. People tend to think in black and white, ignoring the fact that there are various shades of gray in between and many different colors beyond that.

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