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Are Liberals Helping Trump?

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Re: Are Liberals Helping Trump?

The jobs and infrastructure rhetoric has helped, but at some point the horrible partisan / plutocrat cabinet choices remind us who really runs the show.

If he does, for example, meaningful h1b visa reform and does not succumb to the siren call of gutting the safety net then I'll believe it.
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The question is not about his policies, or even his rhetoric. It's whether the left's hysterical reaction to absolutely everything he does is helping him, by turning off people who might otherwise be willing to listen to reasonable criticism of his behavior.

I'm pretty sure it is.

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It's not the citizens who are liberal. It's the dumb ones who don't understand they are being used as tools to further the agenda of the political machine they are being used by.

It's not about their marriages, abortions, or immigration. It's about the folks in government who want to find a legal way to stay there making huge money and who want to continue through any means they can without looking like they are responsible.

It's a modern socialist revolution using psychological manipulation.

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Doh!


Business owners stand by decision to fire protesters - CNN.com

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Fake news, just look at the source.



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The question is not about his policies, or even his rhetoric. It's whether the left's hysterical reaction to absolutely everything he does is helping him, by turning off people who might otherwise be willing to listen to reasonable criticism of his behavior.

I'm pretty sure it is.
I would discount hysteria. It's not like conservatives will ever consider any words or action of liberalism as possibly having merit.
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Re: Are Liberals Helping Trump?

They're not helping themselves. If they want to provide a direct contrast to our president, acting just as reactionary and outraged as he does isn't going to do that.

Another thing that I think they miss is when you make this us against the devil, you miss that you are basically telling the people who voted for him that you voted for the devil. Well then those people have an active stake in him succeeding. You need those people to vote for you next time. They now have such a large share in his success that they are not going to be listening to reasoned arguments, even if you were to make them. Which they haven't been anyway.

At this point the only person who can hurt Trump is Trump. Which he is more the capable of doing. If he just does half the things he says he was going to he will win his next term by a landslide.

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He's going to win by a landslide by virtue of the electoral college, the magical (R) next to his name, and the continuation of his base, namely, white low-ed whites, to vote against their own self interests.

If he has a REALLY GOOD sense of humor he can issue an executive order to allow Obama to run for a third term in 2020 just to see if the GOP would win. I'd wager my Mini Cooper he (Trump) would win.

We're that gullible.
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That's racist!


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He's going to win by a landslide by virtue of the electoral college, the magical (R) next to his name, and the continuation of his base, namely, white low-ed whites, to vote against their own self interests.

If he has a REALLY GOOD sense of humor he can issue an executive order to allow Obama to run for a third term in 2020 just to see if the GOP would win. I'd wager my Mini Cooper he (Trump) would win.

We're that gullible.
"White low-ed whites"?

Yes, just like me and my wife (both with "only" bachelor's degrees).

Nice profiling there.

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Re: Are Liberals Helping Trump?

Hey Tech, like me your already labeled a deplorable. Whatjew looking for my man, an upgrade? I personally think you're pretty ballzie even inferring you voted for Trump. I thought I was the only one that would come right out a say it. (you know, not give that old safe, "I didn't vote for Trump, but")
All this makes me want to get a bumper sticker that sez. " I'm a low ed white and here to shout my guy's in and your gal's out.

If you don't embody controversy, what you say will become just another part of the media driven culture of stifling thought and debate about issues.
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Hey Tech, like me your already labeled a deplorable. Whatjew looking for my man, an upgrade? I personally think you're pretty ballzie even inferring you voted for Trump. I thought I was the only one that would come right out a say it. (you know, not give that old safe, "I didn't vote for Trump, but")
All this makes me want to get a bumper sticker that sez. " I'm a low ed white and here to shout my guy's in and your gal's out.
I was a one-issue voter in this past general election: who would have the lower chance of starting WW III? It was obvious that Hillary would be much more likely to start it, given that:
1. She has never seen a war she didn't like, and
2. She explicitly said that she wanted a no-fly zone in Syria, which would have meant a high likelihood of ending up with the US shooting down Russian plane(s).

Earlier in 2016, before the nomination of Trump and Hillary, I had roughly the following preferences:

1. Rand Paul
2. Bernie Sanders
3. Jill Stein
4. Gary Johnson
5. Giant meteor of death

In fact, after Rand dropped out, I gave a friend money to help Bernie in Iowa.

I see no reason to apologize for my actions.

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That's racist!
And sexist.

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"White low-ed whites"?

Yes, just like me and my wife (both with "only" bachelor's degrees).

Nice profiling there.
Look up "availability heuristic" next time you have a chance 😁...
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