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Would you care to compare false rape statistics vs unreported rape statistics?
Hey John... all I know is the statist media runs with any "rape" allegation that fits their narrative.

You know it too.

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8% false accusations vs 65% unreported...

Frankly speaking, as a father of two college girls, I'd rather see neither. But then, I have raised my girls to take responsibility and own up to their actions.

Both sets of numbers above come from the ones that didn't.
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Hey John... all I know is the statist media runs with any "rape" allegation that fits their narrative.

You know it too.
I wish you the best of luck getting him to admit it.

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If it's your daughter or sister, what do you want the statist media to say?
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I wish you the best of luck getting him to admit it.
Every once in awhile, I enjoy wasting my time.
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Every once in awhile, I enjoy wasting my time.
Seems to be a common trend. I have a good friend who's a conservative despite being married to a Trump ban country wife... All 8 years of Obama he rarely posted anything political on Facebook.

After November (which, ironically, was his first time visiting wife's country after 20 years of marriage) he suddenly found religion and he's on Facebook like you would not believe... Defending the Donald better than anyone. An amazing transformation. He's not the only one.

He's not a "deplorable" incidentally, but a successful MBA. Hopefully in another decade or so he will learn to put together a coherent argument 😁
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8% false accusations vs 65% unreported...

Frankly speaking, as a father of two college girls, I'd rather see neither. But then, I have raised my girls to take responsibility and own up to their actions.

Both sets of numbers above come from the ones that didn't.
Both sets of numbers? Unreported rape cases are *girls* not taking responsibility for their actions?

I would think that number a failure of *boys* to take responsibility.
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Both sets of numbers? Unreported rape cases are *girls* not taking responsibility for their actions?

I would think that number a failure of *boys* to take responsibility.
I obviously meant both genders 😁 thank you for pointing that out.

After spending decades on college campuses I don't think either gender has the monopoly on clueless behavior.

And, both genders are vulnerable to the siren calls of partying, drinking, and dating.
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I obviously meant both genders thank you for pointing that out.

After spending decades on college campuses I don't think either gender has the monopoly on clueless behavior.

And, both genders are vulnerable to the siren calls of partying, drinking, and dating.


High risk behaviors are called high risk for a reason and comes partly to inexperienced of life.

Decades ago, NFL players would get drafted with a sudden large paycheck. A lot of these came from impoverished background with very little clue on how to budget that large amount of money. Subsequently, too many would end their career flat broke. The inexperienced. So, now when these guys are drafted they have to go through economics courses on how to budget their spending habits along with investing for a time beyond sports.

Universities have in recent years recognized that kids moving from home (away from parental authority) may not have the experience on how to manage their own potential high risk activities. So, some universities actually have mandatory sessions ahead the first day of school to teach students how to manage their life on their own. Some, folks have assumed this to be anti-male (unfortunately there are times when it feels that way for some), but it really is about trying to educate students how to reduce high risk behavior.

Nevertheless, some NFL players (even now) exit their career broke as some university students still partake in high risk behaviors. The hope is that less of this happens if we take the initiative to educate preemptively.


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High risk / clueless behaviours? Do we not distinguish anymore between activities that are self destructive and those that harm others?

I sure would.

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I don't understand how those statistics were calculated. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the numbers. I just want to know what the criteria was to classify a charge as false (dismissed, found innocent etc) and how they determined that a certain percentage were unreported. If they were unreported how did anyone hear about them to include them in a statistical analysis? Were they reported after the fact, or admitted to later, or just projected?

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High risk / clueless behaviours? Do we not distinguish anymore between activities that are self destructive and those that harm others?

I sure would.


Clueless would be a university failing to recognize that students will likely participate in high risk activities which can cause harm to others or self and thus do nothing to address it.


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Clueless would be a university failing to recognize that students will likely participate in high risk activities which can cause harm to others or self and thus do nothing to address it.


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I don't understand how those statistics were calculated. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the numbers. I just want to know what the criteria was to classify a charge as false (dismissed, found innocent etc) and how they determined that a certain percentage were unreported. If they were unreported how did anyone hear about them to include them in a statistical analysis? Were they reported after the fact, or admitted to later, or just projected?
Unreported rapes are counted by using surveys, selecting a random but representative sample, then asking them about past sexual experiences, with questions about whether there was consent, or elements of force or coercion, and so on. Some questions would be point-blank (In the past year, were you ever raped?) and some questions would be more scenario based to get at some of the common nuances and issues around rape. And some questions would ask about reporting and their experiences (or lack of experience) with that. The stats then come from a statistical analysis of those answers.

False rape charges are counted from actual reported rapes and include those who recanted their accusations and those who were found innocent. Or at least that's what they should count.
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Does anyone believe the people collecting these statistics don't have a political motive when publishing them?

Before you answer, keep in mind that the US Government considers Hispanic Americans "white" when publishing crime statistics, but those same people magically become "minorities" when it's time to collect and publish household income data.
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