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Nebraska plays good football.
Hanging my head in shame I must say we DID at one time. Hopefully we are on the road back to good(dare i hope for great) football.

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And back to your topic at hand, this is the sort of thing I wish more could do when *****ing and fighting and saying they hate about states and areas.

Find what is great about EVERY state. Yeah we all have things we can laugh at. (more cattle than people in some western Nebraska counties) But every state and city makes up AMERICA. And until we can again realize that, everyone will more likely to be pissed at each other than real issues.

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Most of the hate fomented here in America, in my opinion, comes from politicians and the news networks who support them.
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You probably had to google some of that sh!t didnt you? Well probably just the Mannheim Steamroller part. Im from Nebraska and barely know that Chip Davis or whatever the hell his name is, is from here.

I would have said Kool-Aid in my original post, but while invented in Hastings, NE, i have no idea what company owns it now.

And @bandit.45 if you've bagged pheasant here it must have been out in western NE or known someone with some farm land. Otherwise good luck bagging one these days.
No google required! I've been a Mannheim Steamroller fan for many years. I've seen them perform in Japan, Philadelphia, and Omaha. Every state has its few good points, but not so many as we all have the same chain restaurants, chain stores, ect.
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Most of the hate fomented here in America, in my opinion, comes from politicians and the news networks who support them.
Indeed.

The division keeps everyone outraged, elected, and employed.

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Southern California gets it mostly from the Colorado. As do Nevada and Arizona.

The division of the Colorado opens up a whole other can of worms. And who gets to oversee that enormous lawsuit? The Hague?
Build a dam and reservoir and sell them the electricity and water.

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I haven't read all of the posts, but it seems as though some of you guys are laboring under the delusion that the nation-state even means anything these days and that they some how matter. The reality is that the nation-states are now ruled by trans-national or multi-national corporations. You can bet if there was a profit to be made from a California secession for the US, it would happen tomorrow. The only there would be a war would be if the profit from war exceeded the profit from trade. I am betting in this case trade would be the more lucrative option.

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See but I think to lose Cali would be a disaster.

1) Loss of oil reserves;

2) Loss of the movie/entertainment industry. Love it or hate it, it is still a huge economic generator.

3) Loss of a huge food basket. The Sacramento, San Joaquin and Imperial Valleys produce about 50% of the produce eaten by the U.S. western states combined. Can you imagine the impact on food prices if we had to import that produce?

4) Loss of high tech manufacturing. I don't even need to explain this one.

I just don't see how we could let them go without a huge fight, and not without military intervention.
Meh, we're one big earthquake away from losing all of that anyway. It's just a matter of time. Yuma beach, here we come!

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Southern California gets it mostly from the Colorado. As do Nevada and Arizona.

The division of the Colorado opens up a whole other can of worms. And who gets to oversee that enormous lawsuit? The Hague?
Why do you imagine it would be renegotiated? There is already a binding agreement in place. It was negotiated by Herbert Hoover between the state in the Colorado watershed. Secession from the Union would not necessarily entail abrogation of treaties. In fact honoring said treaties would probably be an aspect of any resolution of secession sent to the other states to agree to. Nevada, Arizona, Utah and Colorado would have virtually no need for all the water and the Colorado would continue its flow along the California border regardless.

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Southern California gets it mostly from the Colorado. As do Nevada and Arizona.

The division of the Colorado opens up a whole other can of worms. And who gets to oversee that enormous lawsuit? The Hague?
It certainly does.

California has been sucking up way more than it's fair share for years.

But it does grow a lot of food so what's a fair division?

We have a similar issue here in northeast florida.....the Orlando area has been fighting to suck water from the st johns river here in the jacksonville area because they've had a ton of unchecked, poorly planned growth. But they also have a lot of money, which we all know talks.

Fresh water is a much bigger issue then many people realize.


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Most of the hate fomented here in America, in my opinion, comes from politicians and the news networks who support them.
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LBJ had nothing on today's environmental and social movements. Hollywood, Lena Dunham, PETA, Greenpeace, Nancy (you have to sign the bill to see what's in it) Pelosi, so many others...

Southern Democrats are/were mildly conservative by nature, particularly socially. What is socially conservative about the modern Democrat Party?

No...Modern day Democrats are doing just fine driving away Southern Democrats on their own.

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It certainly does.

California has been sucking up way more than it's fair share for years.

But it does grow a lot of food so what's a fair division?

We have a similar issue here in northeast florida.....the Orlando area has been fighting to suck water from the st johns river here in the jacksonville area because they've had a ton of unchecked, poorly planned growth. But they also have a lot of money, which we all know talks.

Fresh water is a much bigger issue then many people realize.
Im thinking the entire country has issues like this.

Nebraska has been sued by Kansas for using too much water from the Platte iirc. Again lots of center pivot irrigation and money to be made from farming.

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Im thinking the entire country has issues like this.

Nebraska has been sued by Kansas for using too much water from the Platte iirc. Again lots of center pivot irrigation and money to be made from farming.
Probably. I think that at one point politicians in the southwest floated the idea of trying to buy water from the great lakes, but since they're half owned by Canada they (Canada) said no.

We live in a great country and capitalism is a great system, but nothing is perfect and the downside is that it encourages making money at all costs.
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