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post #106 of 525 (permalink) Old 02-23-2017, 05:13 PM
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Ok, Trumps been in a month and change. What has he done to confirm what a crappie President you believed he'd be? Sounds to me like he's doing pretty close to what he said he'd do. To reiterate over and over again, I voted for Trump in November, I'd vote for him today, and didn't do it to vote against Hillery. I did it because I'm a populist, he's a populist and that's alright be me.
I kinda appears most of the jumping up and down by his detractors can be traced back to his position on illegal aliens and keeping us safe by cutting off groups that embed potential terrorist.


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Trump is something we have never seen in my life time. An elected official who does what he said he would do before the election. I think that is actually the reason for so much of the fear. I'm still a proud voting member of the Coalition to throw the bums out.

Would I vote today the same way I did in November? I'm not positive. Due to the ever changing rules state by state in the primaries I opted not to cast a primary vote. I suppose it is a matter of pride for me that I would rather have no voice in local elections than Join either of the two major parties. I feel that it would be giving a stamp of approval to the ridiculous things they are doing. ie. ripping the country apart with hate.

I'm just glad I live in a food producing state, and I could happily get by without the fruits and nuts coming out of the west coast independent state.
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Well I think that what we are not used to seeing is a president using a bully pulpit. The last president who did that was Nixon, and we saw how that went down. I was only five or six when Watergate was going on but I can still remember that on t.v. It dominated the news every night while the congressional hearings were going on.

I think people fear that Trump will be another Nixon. There are indeed a lot of similarities.
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A lot of RED states depend on MONEY from California to feed their poor, their hungry...


Trump is not a conservative. He's a russian puppet. He is a liar, that anyone can plainly see, unless they have some strange blind devotion. Rain on inauguration day? The russian connections. He says he's the best at everything but hasn't shown that to be true. bowling green = not true. The terrorist attacks in Sweden that didn't happen... this is every day. And his very limited vocabulary is horrible.

Anyone who has been a betrayed spouse should recognize the gas lighting that comes from trump and his people.

Supporting those who want to divorce or reconcile. Not every relationship is the same.
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Here's a relevant article which came out today. He makes some good points but I am not convinced widespread violence is inevitable.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...&newsletterad=

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Do you think Hillary Clinton or whatever aspiring Hugo Chavez they offer up next is going to protect us from violent leftist thugs, or encourage them? Remember how Obama weaponized agencies like the IRS against conservatives? Multiply that by a thousand. Think about the “hate speech” rules used to silence conservatives on campus; imagine them as federal law. That’s coming, just like in Europe – it’s now a crime in France to speak out against abortion. Do you imagine leftists don’t dream of doing that? No, once back in power they will ensure we will never be able to challenge their rule. One man (or woman or other), one vote, one more time, then never again.
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But this amusing idiocy highlights a much more frightening possibility. Dennis Prager has written that America is locked in a Second Civil War already, albeit a cold one. And in light of the absolute rejection by the left of any legitimacy of the grievances, the interests, or the right to participate in governing this country of the tens of millions of red Americans, it’s reasonable to wonder how this can end peacefully. You see read it on social media, you hear it whispered. Are the wounds to our body politic so deep they can’t be healed?

I recently polled people on Twitter about what they thought of the chances of serious violence in the coming four years, and the results from 6,159 people are alarming. “Stop being a nut” got 10%; I was hoping it would get about 95%. “We’ll wise up” and find a way out of this crisis, got 13%. But “50/50 leftists may try violence” got a stunning 41%, while “It’s coming. Gear up” got a terrifying 36%.

So, 77% of the respondents fear serious violence during Trump’s first term. That’s scary, especially since political warfare is not unprecedented in history. Forget Bleeding Kansas. Just reflect on the low-grade insurgency the American left undertook in the 1970s, with more bloodshed than most people remember, and consider how today the left has significantly more cultural, institutional and media support. The reality is that there is the potential for this to get out of control, way out of control, especially considering the likelihood that leftist violence would be met in kind. That 77% indicates that the red side is, as the left loves to say, “woke” to the threat. And the red people have the guns and training, should things degenerate into serious chaos.

Basically, this country is a powder keg, and leftist fools who do not understand the danger are figuratively standing around it, firing up their bongs.
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Ditto here.

I am cautiously optimistic about Trump

I'm really enjoying watching the Democratic party and "progressives" going into anaphylactic shock over Clinton losing.
Hardly.

As I said, my sizable income won't be cut by Trump. The masses will feel good and spend their meager tax refunds buying stuff I help design. We'll pretend jobs are coming back. Hopefully WW3 won't start. Medical school won't be any cheaper. And I have SNL to look forward to outside NCAA basketball.

Feel sorry for the unfortunate Trump (and Hillary) voters who will lose ACA, will see no new jobs, will continue to get screwed with a dismantled safety net for younger workers...

My Facebook feed has an equal number of cat memes and Trump memes. What else does a guy want.
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Me to, it's funny watching all the liberal national news people attack Trump all day and make fools of themselves.
You'd think they learned from Saint Reagan of Teflon...
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Here's a relevant article which came out today. He makes some good points but I am not convinced widespread violence is inevitable.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...&newsletterad=
Well that's just great.

I don't have nearly enough .223 for this crap.

Virginia: "Why can't you kids leave well enough alone? Everything was fine until you started digging around."

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You'd think they learned from Saint Reagan of Teflon...
It's not really the news media anymore. More like the agenda media.

But most have seen through that guise.
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Well that's just great.

I don't have nearly enough .223 for this crap.
If you survive a gun fight and expend more than 2 magazines of ammo, you're exceptional. But you should be stocking up on ammo now during the lull. Lots of 22lr, 9mm, 223 for barter or just to shoot for fun. When everybody else is moaning about the next ammo shortage, you'll be non-plussed.

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Scenario 1 is that the Right will merely troll the Left, as they currently are, while the Left becomes increasingly violent. Eventually, when the Left takes power again (which is inevitable) they will start dragging dissidents out of their homes, killing them in the streets just like the Left did in Spain 1936, and when their leadership responds "Embrace the Revolution" we will have the 2nd American Civil War (and the death of the Republic) just as Spain had it's Civil War.

Scenario 2 is that the Right becomes violent, in response to violence from the Left. This will result in our own version of the Italian "Years of Lead". An even worse, more violent and horrifying version of our "Civil Unrest" of the 1960's and 70's.

These aren't the only possibilities, but I think they should be every American's concern. Scenario 1 isn't exactly imminent either. Scenario 2 could be.
Neither one of those will result in a long war. The left is disarmed, whereas the right is highly armed. The outcome will be fast and furious (no pun intended).

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The terrorist attacks in Sweden that didn't happen... this is every day.
Sweden: Riots erupt in Stockholm neighborhood - CNN.com

And this is from CNN after they spin it the best they can.

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A lot of RED states depend on MONEY from California to feed their poor, their hungry...


Trump is not a conservative. He's a russian puppet. He is a liar, that anyone can plainly see, unless they have some strange blind devotion. Rain on inauguration day? The russian connections. He says he's the best at everything but hasn't shown that to be true. bowling green = not true. The terrorist attacks in Sweden that didn't happen... this is every day. And his very limited vocabulary is horrible.

Anyone who has been a betrayed spouse should recognize the gas lighting that comes from trump and his people.
I hope the left keeps this up at least until 2018 so that Trump will have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

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I agree there are some similarities to Nixon, however I'd like to point out a few differences.

Nixon loved to read substantive material and as a consequence was extremely well educated. He used that knowledge to great effect. Part of the reason that the USSR eventually made peace with us, is that our relationship with China which he created, was turning both of us into greater super powers.

I will say this though. Either trump is very lucky or he handling Xi Jinping better than the previous crew. I say so because China just last week stopped ALL their coal imports from North Korea. That is a big deal since NK funds its nuclear and missile programs using the hard currrency they get from exports. And coal represented a big part of that foreign exchange.



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Well I think that what we are not used to seeing is a president using a bully pulpit. The last president who did that was Nixon, and we saw how that went down. I was only five or six when Watergate was going on but I can still remember that on t.v. It dominated the news every night while the congressional hearings were going on.

I think people fear that Trump will be another Nixon. There are indeed a lot of similarities.
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Since the stock market is forward looking, it seems investors are expecting good things to come from Trump. Am I wrong?

If you don't embody controversy, what you say will become just another part of the media driven culture of stifling thought and debate about issues.
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