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True mr chilly. Thats why God call that belief and confession and religion and not certitude ... Because we try to understand the unseen. I will ask somerhing :do anybody here believe the Hiv virus exist? If so are really everyone here certain of that and have seen the virus on the electronic microscope?
We know that HIV virus exists because scientists have seen in using telescopes. We have scientific methods that use peer review, and verification of findings so that many scientists review studies, re do them challenge them to either prove or disprove.

So we have trusted studies that tell us that the virus exists. We can even search the internet and find images of the virus.

We don't only believe that the HIV virus exist because of observable symptoms, it's because of actual proof.

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What happens in your religion to you after you die?

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No. So how we can believe that? Just because of its effect.... The hiv causes a very dangerous desease that has simptoms and usually causes a death.. So the virus do exist even if we have never seen it. Do you think now God exist? He is the God of the Hiv too. If you follow the word of god you can never been sick of hiv because it is a virues that could be transmitted only by sexual relations or wrong transfusion of blood. So people not cheati g on their wives could not fall in it. It is a ki d of panishment to rebalance the God will on earth and believe in Family Cocept.
Why is a person punished with HIV for tranfusions? What did they do wrong?

If you believe that HIV is a punishment, then you must believe that a person who gets a blood transfusion after some horrible injury is being punished if they get HIV from the transfusion. What are they being punished for?

How about the good wife who has a hemorrhage during child birth and needs a transfusion or she will die. If she gets HIV from that Stop correcting "transfusion", what is she being punished for?

Or what about the baby born with HIV? What is that baby being punished for? The baby never had sex and never had a transfusion.
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I have read a little about how Muslims believe in heaven and hell and how Allah judges them based on how they lived their lives here on Earth.

I also read that if you are of another religion, you do NOT go to heaven.

Your Allah is just like my God with the difference that if you don't believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God then you don't go to heaven that way.

You, @touatitoconsulty said, "There is only one god here and on the after life. He is the God of christians, jews, Mulims, pagans, hindu, animals, vegetals, mountains, all seen and non seen entities"

Like you, I believe God is indeed the same God as the jews, muslims, hindu and some pagans as well. I think God has no bounds and can transform to fit the needs of His people regardless of culture, race/ethnicity, place, or time. I am one of some Christians that believe this.

Thank you for letting me know that there are some Muslims that believe this as well.

May the peace of Allah be with you and yours @touatitoconsulty!

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From what I hear from religious friends, their impression of the afterlife is shaped by movies and TV. They seem to think that they will have bodies and the same senses they now have. They will be able to eat and drink all they want but all will be fully clothed since nudity is a sin I suppose.

Belief in gods and afterlives have changed during the course of mankind. They come and they go as mankind becomes more educated and knowledgeable about the world and Universe around them. Right now Christianity is the largest religion worldwide but note the number of athesit which grows every year while a belief in God decreases.

Listed below are the religions with the most followers in order:

(1) Christianity: About 2.3 billion followers. About 50% of Christians are Roman Catholics.
(2) Muslim: About 1.5 billion followers. About 80-90% of Muslims are Sunni and 10-20% are Shia. The Shia-Sunni split in the Muslim religion occurred due to the dispute over the succession after the prophet Muhammad died in 632.
(3) Non-religious or atheist: About 1 billion people
(4) Hindu: About 900 million followers with the vast majority living in India.
(5) Buddhist: About 400 million followers. Based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama, the vast majority of Buddhists live in Asia.

So yes Christianity has the most people believing in their concept of the afterlife. Since we also produce more movies and TV shows which most people get their view of an afterlife, it stands to reason that its view is most accepted around the world.

One thing I never understood is that most people who believe in a wonderful afterlife go through extraordinary means to stay alive just a little longer. They fear death and will go bankrupt to buy drugs that may give them a few more months of life. They live safely and do not risk their lives by doing dangerous things. We buckle up in cars and go to doctors for lots of testing. I live among 150,000 senior citizens who all find god on death's door but it feels more that they hope there is an afterlife rather than firmly believe in it. If I believed in an afterlife, I would hope to die as soon as possible even if I had a family. After all a 100 years on earth is a speck in eternity and I would be reunited with my family, that has fully clothed bodies and all of our human senses, for eternity. Extending life is a big business among those who believe in a better world to come after death.

Many prefer to drown in a pool of their own morality rather than seek the safety of a different morality when the choice is monogamy or your marriage.

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Re: Does the Christian God monopolize the afterlife?

So, @Vinnydee, what religion are you from?

What is your religion's belief regarding the afterlife?

Does your religion accept others that don't share your faith in the rewards of the afterlife if your religion does have a place where your believers' faith go too?

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What do you believe that the after life is like?
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What do you believe that the after life is like?
It's something similar to a science fiction or super natural story where man is no ordinary creation anymore:

It's similar to this world where we reunite with blood family, but not necessarily live with all the members of our family though. This is mainly because we all have different purposes in heaven. We don't sit around all day and just eat, drink, and be merry so to speak. God is the sole governing entity in Heaven and he controls every aspect of that world.

We follow God's commands/rules for that kingdom. We live eternally in peace and harmony there because we accept God's rules and obey them with love and not fear of punishment or being banished. I also believe that we are given a body there as well and we have the ability to travel in spirit form from one part of heaven to another as part of God's purpose for us in His world.

I also believe that heaven, unlike Earth which is only one planet, has more planets than just one and hence why we travel through time and space between one part of heaven to other parts of heaven. In heaven we also use all the parts of the brain that we as humans couldn't because we know so much more there than we could ever know here and at much rapid speeds too. Great knowledge comes with our eternal bodies so to speak.

What do you believe the afterlife is like @EleGirl and who governs it?

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Why is a person punished with HIV for tranfusions? What did they do wrong?

If you believe that HIV is a punishment, then you must believe that a person who gets a blood transfusion after some horrible injury is being punished if they get HIV from the transfusion. What are they being punished for?

How about the good wife who has a hemorrhage during child birth and needs a transfusion or she will die. If she gets HIV from that Stop correcting "transfusion", what is she being punished for?

Or what about the baby born with HIV? What is that baby being punished for? The baby never had sex and never had a transfusion.
I cannot believe that a loving God would ever punish a child! Having said that, perhaps the malady of that child was brought about to test the faith of the parents or any of the other family or non-family members close to it! Do remember that the child is always in the hands of the Heavenly Father and it is not His aim to have them suffer endlessly or needlessly!

As always, God can easily see into man's heart and soul!

It is no deep dark secret that God does move in strange and mysterious ways!

Inasfar as the "monopolization" by a Christian God, we are told that He is a most loving, but jealous God; ensuring the depth of His Fatherly love to all, and in retrospect, expecting that love of His to be reciprocated through love and faith!!

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Why is a person punished with HIV for tranfusions? What did they do wrong?

If you believe that HIV is a punishment, then you must believe that a person who gets a blood transfusion after some horrible injury is being punished if they get HIV from the transfusion. What are they being punished for?

How about the good wife who has a hemorrhage during child birth and needs a transfusion or she will die. If she gets HIV from that Stop correcting "transfusion", what is she being punished for?

Or what about the baby born with HIV? What is that baby being punished for? The baby never had sex and never had a transfusion.
I can understand you Ely girl but not all God actions and reactions are punishment... The lady with a childe born with hiv has nothing to do with punishment... Some happens as tests for people to be closer to God... To pray.. To have a question about life and after life like saying "" what i have done to God to have a child with a handicap or some deadly desease " that question.. Has an answer from God and it is a private answer that he deliver for everyone... He know better why and he could heal any desease on earth if he wants...

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What happens in your religion to you after you die?
Every body will go to the judgment day christians... Muslims men women animals.. Yes even animals god will ask as mohamed said the stronger goat or sheep why they hit the weak one

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Erm no, as a "Pagan" we don't believe sorry, and paganism is such a broad form, think mostly associated with western paganism.

More shamanist / animalist or whatever Tengriism used to be. But what I like about my "religion" is I can believe in anything or nothing at all. No higher power requires worship, but respect. We respect the laws that govern all living things, but we kowtow to no one.
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I practice Buddhism as a spiritual philosophy, I do not see it as a religion as I do not worship any deity in my living it. I could not tell you if there is a soul or afterlife, if there is then I will experience it and welcome it accordingly. I do believe we all have an energy that I suppose could be called a soul, but how it transcends to the next world is less a concern for me than living the best I can and removing suffering from my life and the lives I am blessed to be touched by.

I am the only one in my family practicing this, it is interesting conversation at times, especially as to what @Vinnydee shared about Heaven, yet fighting so hard to stay here on this Earth.

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God is only limited by our imagination and our prejudices.

There are too many "Surface Dwellers" here on Earth.

Every living thing and every inanimate object is the creation of God.

That what we call inanimate, viz., stone, metal, water, gas, etc. is dead only to our eyes....a lot of electrons and forces reside and move within.

Smile at the Earth, other Planets and the Stars...they are "Waving" back.

Us "Wees" ain't alone. Life in the Universe is Rife.

We are lucky. We are rich.

However, we waste our mental fortune on material thoughts, material baubles and childish squabbles.

This....This is the nub of the stick that pokes me in the eye when the light of day energizes my optic nerve....SunCMars.... The Allegory of the Cave--> On this, I did a '180' and stepped out.

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God is only limited by our imagination and our prejudices.

There are too many "Surface Dwellers" here on Earth.

Every living thing and every inanimate object is the creation of God.

That what we call inanimate, viz., stone, metal, water, gas, etc. is dead only to our eyes....a lot of electrons and forces reside and move within.

Smile at the Earth, other Planets and the Stars...they are "Waving" back.

Us "Wees" ain't alone. Life in the Universe is Rife.

We are lucky. We are rich.

However, we waste our mental fortune on material thoughts, material baubles and childish squabbles.
We are blessed in many ways, our focus often lost amongst the self-created clutter... one doesn't stumble when seeing in the dark is practiced.

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