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President Trump fires FBI Director Comey

So what is with that, can the President do that? Isn't he himself (Trump) under investigation by the FBI or is all of this 'false news' or maybe 'alternative facts.'
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So what is with that, can the President do that? Isn't he himself (Trump) under investigation by the FBI or is all of this 'false news' or maybe 'alternative facts.'
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just heard about this.. what was the reasoning behind it? One of my friends said Comey is a straight shooter?
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IMO Comey was on borrowed time since July. He f'd over the FBI. I'm glad he's finally gone.

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I know the Democrats don't like him for his investigation into Clinton's emails but why fire him now. As the saying goes there is never smoke without a fire and I am sure that fire has something to do with the Donald. (er sorry President Trump).
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No matter who had been elected Comey would have been sacked for a number of reasons.

He gave misinformation about the emails.

Deliberately or carelessly does not matter in this context. He should have resigned before it got to this stage.


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No matter who had been elected Comey would have been sacked for a number of reasons.

He gave misinformation about the emails.

Deliberately or carelessly does not matter in this context. He should have resigned before it got to this stage.
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No matter who had been elected Comey would have been sacked for a number of reasons.

He gave misinformation about the emails.

Deliberately or carelessly does not matter in this context. He should have resigned before it got to this stage.
The Democrats really stepped in it by giving Trump the pretext to sack Comey. The Russia investigation is continuing. Trump hardened the resolve of those prosecutors. Watch the NY Attorney General in the coming weeks and months. RICO and the NY equivalent is going get them.

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He should have been fired day 1. However, the timing of it is suspicious at best. It may turn out to be nothing, but if there isn't an independent investigation into the Russia stuff now going forward, this does stink to a Nixonian level.

But again, that said, he still should have been fired.
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Once again Comey was fine to stay where he was until he started looking into the allegation and ties between the white house and Russia, then he became a problem....every single time some one questions the white house on any allegation between themselves and Russia, or Nepotism some gets fired....its the old magic trick of re-defection...i am am honestly waiting for the day when this country final wakes up and realizes that they voted in a self-centered, misogynist, moron. I promise you this it will happen i just hope we can limit the damage he has done.

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I don't know Comey's track record throughout his career. But recently, since the election cycle and until now, I saw the following development:

1. Comey closes investigation on Clinton emails; Trump criticizes Comey on this
2. Comey re-opens Clinton email investigation; Trump revels in Clinton's [presumed] imminent incarceration
3. Comey closes investigation again; Trump upset with outcome, being convinced of Clinton's wrongdoing

Considering these events (in chronological order), Comey's dismissal kind of makes sense.

Point 1 is where Trump (and much of Trump's supporters) distrusted Comey. Point 2 was Comey's chance of redemption with Trump and his supporters. Point 3 is clear evidence to Trump (and his supporters) that Comey can't be trusted.

Knowing how Trump sees Comey and anticipating how the current administration perceives public opinion on Comey, Session's recommendation for the man's dismissal was "writing on the wall".

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I don't know Comey's track record throughout his career. But recently, since the election cycle and until now, I saw the following development:

1. Comey closes investigation on Clinton emails; Trump criticizes Comey on this
2. Comey re-opens Clinton email investigation; Trump revels in Clinton's [presumed] imminent incarceration
3. Comey closes investigation again; Trump upset with outcome, being convinced of Clinton's wrongdoing

Considering these events (in chronological order), Comey's dismissal kind of makes sense.

Point 1 is where Trump (and much of Trump's supporters) distrusted Comey. Point 2 was Comey's chance of redemption with Trump and his supporters. Point 3 is clear evidence to Trump (and his supporters) that Comey can't be trusted.

Knowing how Trump sees Comey and anticipating how the current administration perceives public opinion on Comey, Session's recommendation for the man's dismissal was "writing on the wall".
Wow. Did you ever consider maybe Comey didn't find anything actionable in the emails? That is a possibility, you know. Or is it preordained for you? The FBI doesn't exist to confirm peoples' political biases. Trump whined about Comey not being hard enough on Clinton last year. Now Comey is fired for being too hard on her. That flies against all the partisan conservative frenzy of the past 4 years. Moreover, it implies you are being manipulated. We teeter on the edge of a permanent republican dictatorship and you guys are playing the part perfectly. The choice is not between Democrats and Republicans. It's between democracy and dictatorship. Unless you are cool with a dictatorship as long as it's a one party kleptocratic kakistrocracy.

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Wow. Did you ever consider maybe Comey didn't find anything actionable in the emails? That is a possibility, you know. Or is it preordained for you? The FBI doesn't exist to confirm peoples' political biases. Trump whined about Comey not being hard enough on Clinton last year. Now Comey is fired for being too hard on her. That flies against all the partisan conservative frenzy of the past 4 years. Moreover, it implies you are being manipulated. We teeter on the edge of a permanent republican dictatorship and you guys are playing the part perfectly. The choice is not between Democrats and Republicans. It's between democracy and dictatorship. Unless you are cool with a dictatorship as long as it's a one party kleptocratic kakistrocracy.

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I'm reading Anonymous' comment and I'm not seeing where he said anything about Hilary being guilty of a crime. He's providing a pretty reasonable analysis of what Trump's motivation might have been to fire Comey. Could be you're reading something into his comment based on your own political bias?

And seriously? teetering on the edge of dictatorship? So is Trump a moron (I think he is) or is he so smart that he's able to fool everyone into LITERALLY scrapping our system of government and assuming complete control, Palpatine-style?

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Getting rid of Comey was a good thing to do, but doing it while he was investigating Trumps team gives the appearance of being incorrect.

If he was going to do that, he should have arranged in advance to have an independent investigation of Russian ties to his team.
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Trump can legally terminate Comey at any time. This isn't unparalleled. It's not a Constitutional Crisis. It's business as usual. Bill Clinton did the same with FBI Director Will Sessions, 5 years into Sessions' 10 year contract.

Honestly, Comey needed to go. He was universally reviled--by D's for not falling on his sword for Hillary, and by R's for not prosecuting after publicly demonstrating the guilt of a certain official--and had openly shown that he would not prosecute officials of high-office, which is not good in a republic. I don't know that his replacement will do so either... it's been a long time since treated the Washington elites legally the same as we treat the plebs. That needs to change...

As to the "Russians!" nonsense, it's just noise. The Hilary Campaign coordinated with the Ukrainian Government to try to beat Trump. It is publicly known that a foreign government attempted to interfere in the US elections, to aid the Democrat Candidate, and we're only worried about the Russia--Trump connection that is still completely without evidence, because it's not about free elections in a free people's Republic, it's about the fact that the CHOSEN ONE lost, even though it was her turn.
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