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Old 01-15-2012, 08:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The biggest complaint I have against pot is it is illegal.

I use to despise pot heads all through HS and college. What I experienced with young user of pot was a lack of motivation, laziness, and just overall negative situations. I myself was scared of drugs, I refused to be near them, I refused to try drugs and I only smoked pot once growing up. Now, with hearing the constant banter back and forth in the news about legalization, I started researching pot some. And then my H introduced it to me. Now I don't know. I still always wind up thinking there is no reason it should be illegal.... At least for adults, like alcohol. I've had my share of drinking problems over the years... I quit drinking about 3 months ago... I feel fantastic BTW. But alcohol can be evil. It can cause insane behavior, been there, done that. But pot doesn't cause the things alcohol can... I don't know... Interested in others thoughts..
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Darn - I thought this was cast iron vs anodize aluminum.

sorry.. carry on.
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I was a pothead all through college. I still got a high GPA and did well in my classes.

I quit the day I graduated as I equate marijuana to something kids do.

That being said, I have many friends who smoke and I don't care-- so long as it's not around me or in my home (the smell makes me ill and it's illegal).

When Hubs moved out, he smoked a few times with friends. I didn't say anything but later told him it lowers my respect for him, I dont' really know why--- it just does. I guess because he smokes to numb his issues and I think Life should be faced sober and dealt with...not numbed. He said he didn't really like it. It just made me fall asleep. ha.

My father smoked until his death. He was a horrible father. ..but was not a dirty hippie pothead. He was a businessman.

I think Pot should be treated like alcohol. In fact, I'd rather someone smoke weed than drink. Just not in my home. Or around me. lol.
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Pot can cause problems in some cases. The earlier a kid smokes pot, the more likely they are to develop psychosis from it.

But all in all I think it is less dangerous than alcohol. I donít use pot. But I generally have no problem with it. I think it should be legal, controlled like alcohol is and taxed. I also think that people should be able to grow a set number of plants a year.

Legalizing pot would bring in large amounts of tax money. It would save a lot of money by emptying a lot of the beds in prisons. And it would take pot out of the control of the criminals. Itís a win all the way around.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Darn - I thought this was cast iron vs anodize aluminum.

sorry.. carry on.
Yeah for Cast Iron
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Pot can cause problems in some cases. The earlier a kid smokes pot, the more likely they are to develop psychosis from it.
That's what I'm gathering from what I've read... It's something that does not appear to affect adults this way.

Another plus to legalizing it, it would cut down on laced pot... That's a lot of where the danger lies too. If it's regulated, it's less likely that someone will buy it from an unknown source and potentially get dangerous pot.

I think it has a lot of medicinal purposes that far outweigh the negatives of pot... It acts a lot in the same way other more potent prescribed drugs do without the unwanted side affects.

I think it also has a lot to do with how responsible one plans to be with it... My H would stay high if he could, and like TG's hubby, I think he either does it to numb something, or he may want to do it because it brings him back to a normal level of functioning... He's very hyper, this mellows him down to a "normal" persons level of hyperness.

This reminds me of the late comedian Richard Jeni... He did a bit on the difference between potheads and drinkers. The drinkers would all be sitting around, getting pumped to go kick someone's ass, and they would follow through after several more drinks... The potheads could be sitting around, getting pumped about kicking someone's ass and they'd smoke a little more and actually forget what they were planning to do Or they no longer were upset with the guy.

Sometimes after a long week at work and our kids go stay at gma's for the night, we'll indulge.... I'm just glad I never actually cared for pot in college, I may have never gotten through as I already was not very motivated to be there... I barely made it through to begin with.
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My wife uses it on occasion for her MS, it would nice if our state had it legal for at least medical uses
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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dont smoke any more myself.

wouldnt mind it being put in the same class as alcohol.

at least we would be able to enjoy going into the wild forests again without having to worry about being killed from the illegal growers trying to hide their gardens in there.
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Personally, I've gained about 10 solid lbs because of pot! I went through a bad period and lost a lot of weight for my frame, no appetite whatsoever. A little weed and I've managed to combat that loss of appetite. If anything in our state, legalizing it for medicinal purposes or at the very least decriminalizing it would be nice.

And yes, we need those prison beds for other, more serious crimes. Murderers are walking because of overcrowding. Of course I know if someone is in prison for pot, as opposed to county jail, it is more likely that they did something on a very large scale.

As for the wild forests, I'm not familiar with those kinds of situations. Is that where the large scale operations are happening? That is not good at all.
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As for the wild forests, I'm not familiar with those kinds of situations. Is that where the large scale operations are happening? That is not good at all.
a lot of this is happening in california i know of.
probably other states too.
booby traps and such are set up by the growers, most of whom happen to be illegal hispanic immigrants.
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Old 01-16-2012, 10:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I only ever smoked pot once growing up too (this past halloween! haha)

I honestly never really felt any compulsion to try it. Never smoked a cigarette either, though grew up in a home where my entire family chain smoked. Aside from one party in high school where I drank one and a half beer I didn't ever drink until in my mid 20's, and since then very moderately.

My whole life I have thought the criminalization of it is futile, unjust and does way more harm then if it were decriminalized. It makes criminals richer, forces addicts to associate with thugs, introduces many children to organized crime and diverts too much of our judicial and law enforcement resources. And still more than half the people I know have used it recreationally anyway.
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It's not good to self medicate with anything. Pot, booze, prescription pills. Yes, there are people addicted to pills they get from DR's prescription.

Pot is definitely the least harmful.

It's just less socially acceptable.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:06 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I told my kids to tell all their friends to blaze up as much as humanly possible. It's a cold hard world out there and anything anyone can do to take themselves out of the competition is appreciated. Also it takes a LOT of backwards hats to pay my kids scholarships. So, thanks.
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Here in iglooland, small amounts of pot are legal. Medical marijuana can be used for certain conditions, as long as the user carries a government card.

I will never forget the way pot helped both my uncle and my beloved friend who died of AIDS. Uncle Ricky used weed to help him with chronic pain due to cancer. Adrian used it to give him an appetite. I loved to hear Adrian say "Oooh, girlfriend! We need to order some Chinese! Your ol' sick queen is STARVING!"

I smoke mainly to alleviate flashbacks and nightmares; I have survived sexual, physical and verbal abuse. Marijuana has worked better than psychotropic medicines or therapy. Weed also helps me handle the arthritis in my left hand, which will be lifelong due to a car accident. Canadian winters are AWFUL for arthritis and I would rather not take the risk of becoming addicted to painkillers.

I feel privileged to live in a country that is tolerant and liberal. We do not put people in jail for stupid things like smoking a spliff and we happily allow gays to marry.

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Many moons ago, the professor for my California Criminal Law class assigned us to write a mid-term paper regarding the controversy over legalizing marijuana. Part of the requirements for this paper was having to present both sides of the debate, along with providing support for each side of this argument which also had been research proven. Phew!!!! (Oh ÖÖ and this was before the internet was a common luxury outside of sitting hours in the library.)

If memory serves correctly, I received a perfect score on my mid-term paper , hence the reason I retained some information throughout the process of putting together that paper.

As stated by previous poster, marijuana (as well as any other drug) is not a drug for adolescents. Legalized or not. The long-term physical damage which alcohol has on the human body is worse than marijuana. Any drug or alcohol used in excess and to mask over or escape dealing with your emotions is not good for an individual. The truth is, certain substances are controlled because human beings have a high tendency to abuse most drugs which have altering effects on our behaviors and emotions.
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